Fedor Emelianenko or Jon Jones - Who has the most impressive win streak?

[Dick]

Where does this 270+ number come from? Jones was 248 in his only HW weigh-in.

Just another part of the fake narrative the Jones haters are trying to build. It's laughable.

 

[Oddmonster]

And who's to say Gane wouldn't knock Aspinall and Pavlovich TF out? Because he very well could.

Gane is not a K.O artist. You know that. But sure, lets see what happens.

 

[Oddmonster]

Where does this 270+ number come from? Jones was 248 in his only HW weigh-in.

"Richard Schaefer tells @arielhelwani that Jon Jones was 260 pounds yesterday. His goal is to get to 275lbs "and basically be the biggest and baddest heavyweight UFC has even seen."
And that is like 2-3 years old.


I am not going to waste time on it, but read somewhere Jon was 268 at his last weight check. Dunno how true that is though.

 

[Dick]

"Richard Schaefer tells @arielhelwani that Jon Jones was 260 pounds yesterday. His goal is to get to 275lbs "and basically be the biggest and baddest heavyweight UFC has even seen."
And that is like 2-3 years old.


I am not going to waste time on it, but read somewhere Jon was 268 at his last weight check. Dunno how true that is though.

Well that's obviously a LIE because Jones clearly weighed in at 248.

 

[Gamer2k4]

"Richard Schaefer tells @arielhelwani that Jon Jones was 260 pounds yesterday. His goal is to get to 275lbs "and basically be the biggest and baddest heavyweight UFC has even seen."
And that is like 2-3 years old.

And clearly that didn't happen. Unless you truly believe Jones cut 25 pounds of water weight for his fight against Gane, in which case there's no hope of a rational argument from you.

 

[IronGolem007]

Continuation to this thread.

Out of the GOATs - Which win streak is the most impressive?

Anderson Silva - 17 fight win streak, that included successfully defending the MW title 10x. George St. Pierre - 13 fight win streak, that included successfully defending the WW title 9x and also won the MW title. Fedor Emelianenko - 27 fight win streak, that included successfully defending...

forums.sherdog.com

The vote was so close in the other thread, that this needed a new thread to put them against each other 1 on 1.

Fedor Emelianenko - 27 fight win streak, that included successfully defending the HW title 5x.

Jon Jones - 19 fight win streak, that included successfully defending the LHW title 11x and also won the HW title.

Argument for Fedor Emelianenko to be your choice, he was small statured HW and fought in a weight class where you can easily lose to a KO. That's why a lot of LHW cut weight to fight at LHW to avoid fighting at HW.

Argument for Jon Jones to be your choice is he fought probably the most top 5 fighters in his long win streak. So he had higher more advanced competition.

Please Vote, Thank You.

Spoiler

@LionsDen24 @Crucif13d @HHJ @arkinso @mjfan23 @cmw43 @ChickenBrother @modulus @Black Blood @mirko>anyone @reddhelium @ScarfaceRAGE @Iroh @newcastleman
@Inspector 2211 @Benoitthegr8 @L0ki @Adamant @Tyrannosaurus rex @Sirwastealot @ProPROpro @Spath @Dr Guildo @Barteh @Naj85 @Snarly @Psychojoe86 @NenadRS
@wwkirk @mangokush @oldschoolmmafan @Sanctus @qw3rty @Chomsky Honk @NikLuk @GIBLERTBAPTISTA @ExitLUPin @Randlewand @Strijfy @Typrune Goatley @Fedor.D
@Thestevenseagal @Simple Southerner @asongoficeandfire @Sweater of AV @WOLVERINEKILLS @blue_whalee @Randy Jo @Natural Order @Goutfather @ElZid @Marko Polo
@Jfreemandrums @PhotographyRaptor @Seekerofhole @AL-Tappo McSnappo @Vigfree @LoneTiger8 @Hdfi @StonedLemur @mister piscadinha @World eater @Danny_boy @JSF
@AmonTobin @OLD RED @NoSmilez @RemyR @alexrooster @Dick @El Che @robbie @Downward Spiral @Russie @balkanbomber85 @markg171 @TankAbbott4Eva @Tchernobog
@JackWhite @nintey @Reign Supreme @Razor @RainyMonday @bloodyknuck @GSPenn1991 @KeiranMc @FedorsFists @Fergelmince @Harlekin @Fight Professor @meast @Kryptt
@pick999 @Yankee @DatSamboKid @loisestrad @JBJ was here @El Fernas @Gregoire1 @scgst4 @The Witcher @Brood @Johnnny @PurpleStorm @Bowel-forged Stool @eatu4tea
@IneedSometop @BigSexy444 @Omegasz @F15 @Cobra 03 @ComfortablyNumb55 @Davidjacksonjones @Wetarmpits @sanguinius @Nameless dude @The Siege @Fioretti @JKS
@AZZA B @Tweak896 @Wormwood @ticho123 @mmacrisis @TheMadHatter @Buff @BorderLiner @Papasmurf45619 @Corrado Soprano @Nobru @BlankaPresident @Shotcy @Pilo
@RockyLockridge @omawho402 @TheAlliance @Gamer007 @Shaolin Alan @revoltub @pankrat @FlyingDeathKick @Chael_Sonnen @TheBulge @23rd Century Sweetheart @Noraaq
@Odoylerules22 @gingerdemon @IronGolem007 @josh3000 @rearnakedchoke @Levi_ @Ares Black @aali14 @MastiffMike @Aldo145 @Skarsgard @Max Power @Prologue
@Arm Barbarian @Striker Fox @Relentless chase @Spam On Rye @21_others @Get To Da Choppa @orangecw @TJ Dillashank @-Sideways- @Spacebadger @AppliedScience
@Leonard Haid @Pious Augustus @d'Coda @Mend2412 @Black9 @KoChang @Fatback96 @Rogan789 @samko32 @RonDante

Fedor faced MUCH bigger guys and NUKED (or subbed) them.

Jones faced much SMALLER guys and "picked them apart" ...

Um, Fedor was therefore much more impressive.

 

[OLD RED]

Fedors 2 best wins are Cro Cop and Nog. A one dimensional striker and a one dimensional grappler. Like I said, truth hurts.

Cro Cop was a world class kickboxer with high level takedown defense and fantastic GnP. He was more well rounded than Poatan who has been mighty successful in the UFC 20 years later.

Big Nog was a black belt under De La Riva who took down everyone he ever fought in Pride meaning his wrestling was solid and he also out boxed Sergei Kharitonov who could have went to the Olympics for Boxing.

Claiming Nog and Cro Cop were one dimensional is intellectually dishonest and downright dumb.

What hurts is seeing how Sherdog went from being a place of semi intelligent MMA discussion to an intellectually decrepit shithole where a moron like you could ever become a moderator.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Jon Jones - 19 fight win streak, that included successfully defending the LHW title 11x and also won the HW title.

Jon had a 13 fight win streak. His NC is really a DQ since he cheated.

 

[Laheys'Liquorland]

Jones still unbeaten GOAT

 

[Halifax]

fedor fought at a time when people were insanely juiced, and the mma “game plan” hadn’t been perfected as an art form. he fought top guys, and not-so-top guys, but he also fought dangerous fighters who weren’t known quantities. basically there was a lot of diversity in competition. he did it as an undersized hw, naturally. so it’s pretty impressive he lasted that long.

jones is pretty close. he’s basically undefeated. the earlier part of his run was packed with stars. he had physical gifts, but he knew how to use them. the only real knock against him is the roids. if you put jones in the game 10 years earlier, without jackson wink, and without roids, might have picked up a few losses. if he fought prime fedor under those circumstances, i wouldn’t be surprised to see fedor pull off a win via armbar or something like that.

so i’m giving the “impressive win streak” award to fedor. the top p4p award goes to jones.

That's not a mere knock. That's a full on disqualification

 

[Hostile1]

Jones will always have an asterisk due to constant cheating. The only reason he wasn't suspended for YEARS is because he snitched.

 

[Dr Guildo]

A big negative with Jon Jones career is his eye pokes as well. Such dirty move that certainly affects the fights.

Too many negatives for Jones to be comparable with Fedor along with lesser fights and at a lower weight class, with his frame he could have opted to fight the best at HW long time ago if he ever wanted to be the baddest man on planet. Fedor was the baddest man for 10 years, Jon Jones never were for one day.

 

[Dick]

A big negative with Jon Jones career is his eye pokes as well. Such dirty move that certainly affects the fights.

Too many negatives for Jones to be comparable with Fedor along with lesser fights and at a lower weight class, with his frame he could have opted to fight the best at HW long time ago if he ever wanted to be the baddest man on planet. Fedor was the baddest man for 10 years, Jon Jones never were for one day.

Jones has been the baddest man in MMA since 2011 when he won the belt. That's 13 years on top.

 

[Gamer007]

It depends on if you consider Jones' entire UFC career a winning streak, if you do it's him when contextualizing how utterly dominate he was, even as a 20-year-old. He is far and away the best 18–21-year-old in the history of the sport.

Technically Fedor has a superior streak if you count the Hamill beatdown and No Contest in the second DC fight against Jones, if so then its Fedor by far.

Jones was effectively doing MMA training for 3 years when he fought Shogun. The kid had never even trained in a striking art before that, when you contextualize what Jones was actually doing, I think his streak is slightly more impressive. Jones still hasn't been wobbled his entire damn career, it's just absurd at this point.

Jones did to Shogun what Fedor did to Nog, except Fedor was 27 at the apex of his career by the third fight, and Jones was 23 years old in his first title fight. Jones beat Shogun so badly you could easily argue he could've won the belt off of Lyoto or Shogun 12+ months prior. Jones took the Shogun fight a MONTH after dispatching of Ryan Bader. We have just never seen a fighter dominate so thoroughly so young yet continue to succeed so many years into their career.

I know that 04 Nog was GREAT and better than 2011 Shogun, I also know HW striking is a different game. But even still, I don't think it's quite enough to trump Jones. Will we ever see a kid become champ and reign for 15+ years as the arguable P4P #1 for each of those years? Jones was rivaling two of the other top four GOAT contenders as a 23-year-old, we have never seen anything like that before or since.

Fedors aura was something else though, I could watch Jones and think he was beatable. Fedor fights felt mostly like formality after a while, not sure that makes a win streak more impressive though.

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

Um, surely the UFC's lucrative and non-restrictive contracts had no effect on

warriors being able to make the wise choices of using THEIR OWN NAME and

likeness for THEIR OWN best interests.


Making decisions how to feed their families during and after their career is over

should ALWAYS revert to UFC, not the men risking their life and health by getting

in the cage.

​

https://www.autism360.com/autism-test-for-adults/

 

[italiamusica]

Fedor was smaller and was also doing combat sambo on the side, his win streak seems more impressive.

 

[Goutfather]

That's not a mere knock. That's a full on disqualification

i’d judge him more harshly for it perhaps if juicing wasnt so commonplace. there’s no real uniformity in testing procedures. even under usada, you had some fighters getting surprise visits at 6am numerous times a year, while other fighters it was all handled locally or the locals would have a heads up. so at the end of the day, i have very little confidence that “no failed = no juicing.” same thing for iv, which was quietly made legal with a doctor’s recommendation. well-funded teams can afford to have a shady doctor on staff, so they’ll always have that note.

 

[RonDante]

It has to be fedor because he fought in HW division. Even the worst HW can one shot you if they touch the chin.

It has to be fedor becuase he fought in the worst division in mma in a shit era?

 

[Adamant]

Fedor.

And Prime Fedor would wreck any version of JJ.

 

[NenadRS]

Fedor was something else.

Jones' resume is good, but extreme weight cutting to avoid HW and roids, nah. And at 32 he had those close decisions, which many thought he lost (Santos, Reyes).