International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. VII

your argument is that the intent isn’t there if only you ignore the words of a few “bad apples” in Israeli leadership.

But when you align the words with the actions Israel is actually taking it’s clear as day.

Bibi literally went to the UN with his new map of Israel. There was no Palestine. It was only Israel. That is clear intent. Whether we like it or not Bibi and his band are leading Israel.

They are moving everyone south and are preparing to invade. The intent is there in words and actions.

When the intent becomes reality and the population is decimated it becomes genocide. Even if Israel were to eliminate Palestine geographically and kick everyone out you’re talking about ethnic cleansing not genocide. Not that ethnic cleansing is much better.

My main point originally is that Israel’s eliminated 1% of the population in 6 months. They could’ve destroyed Gaza overnight if they wanted to. If their intent were to wipe out the Gaza population(genocide) they could’ve done that 10x over by now. In previous genocides, if the aggressors had the option/ability to eliminate or enslave the Jews, Armenians and Tutsis overnight they would have because that was their ultimate goal.
 
When the intent becomes reality and the population is decimated it becomes genocide. Even if Israel were to eliminate Palestine geographically and kick everyone out you’re talking about ethnic cleansing not genocide. Not that ethnic cleansing is much better.

My main point originally is that Israel’s eliminated 1% of the population in 6 months. They could’ve destroyed Gaza overnight if they wanted to. If their intent were to wipe out the Gaza population(genocide) they could’ve done that 10x over by now. In previous genocides, if the aggressors had the option/ability to eliminate or enslave the Jews, Armenians and Tutsis overnight they would have because that was their ultimate goal.


This point has been debunked many times over.

They have already destroyed Gaza. Again, Israel is not stupid, they can’t simply just wipe out Gaza over night, without the entire world turning against them. The only way to have done that is drop nukes. They have been slowly taking over the West Bank for decades.


You can’t just keep using the argument if they really wanted genocide they would kill everyone over night, since they aren’t it’s not genocide. They are still wiping people out
 
So they bombed the fuck out of the agencies they were working with and coordinated with? lol those are facts
@jimbob27 was trying to pretend the aid agencies are getting aid in against the wishes of Israel who want to starve them and let them die. Which of course isn’t true. But hey, you do you.
 
This point has been debunked many times over.

They have already destroyed Gaza. Again, Israel is not stupid, they can’t simply just wipe out Gaza over night, without the entire world turning against them. The only way to have done that is drop nukes. They have been slowly taking over the West Bank for decades.


You can’t just keep using the argument if they really wanted genocide they would kill everyone over night, since they aren’t it’s not genocide. They are still wiping people out

Cool so they’re on pace to wipe out the Gaza population in 30 years. That’s the slowest and woat genocide of all time. If Hamas surrenders or is proven to be eliminated the west will 100% and step in to stop israel from wiping out a government less population.
 
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Right, just like the aid workers they coordinated with and bombed the fuck out of. You a fool
Again really it comes down to PR, the Israelis are having to jump though some hoops to sell this conflict to the public in the west, having to pretend they care about aid work whilst sabotaging it as much as they can get away with.

You had all the talk about increased shipments recently which was parroted by western news sources by the UN itself said no more aid was actually getting though.
 
Cool so they’re on pace to wipe out the Gaza population in 30 years. That’s the slowest and woat genocide of all time. If Hamas surrenders or is proven to be eliminated the west will 100% and step in to stop israel from wiping out a government less population.

Again really it comes down to PR, the Israelis are having to jump though some hoops to sell this conflict to the public in the west, having to pretend they care about aid work whilst sabotaging it as much as they can get away with.

You had all the talk about increased shipments recently which was parroted by western news sources by the UN itself said no more aid was actually getting though.


That’s the thing , these guys here are acting like Israel is stupid and doesn’t care about the PR battle.
 
@jimbob27 was trying to pretend the aid agencies are getting aid in against the wishes of Israel who want to starve them and let them die. Which of course isn’t true. But hey, you do you.


So dodging again? The kflo MO.

You’re refering to the agencies that Israel coordinated with and then bombed the fuck out of?
 



No, Mr Netanyahu. It is not antisemitic or pro-Hamas to point out that in a little over six months your extremist government has killed 34,000 Palestinians and wounded more than 77,000 – seventy percent of whom are women and children. It is not antisemitic to point out that your bombing has completely destroyed more than 221,000 housing units in Gaza, leaving more than one million people homeless – almost half the population,” Mr Sanders said.




Bernie the only one from the the U.S. calling out Israel on their bullshit. Everyone knows it’s a distraction
 
You’re trying to tell me it’s genocide by the UNs definition when the UN hasn’t called it genocide. So either they’re misinterpreting their own definition or you are.


It’s a genocide according to the geneva convention definition
 
So dodging again? The kflo MO.

You’re refering to the agencies that Israel coordinated with and then bombed the fuck out of?
Dodging?

Again, you’re trying to suggest aid is getting into Gaza DESPITE Israel…..of course, well, you’re lying. Again….lol….

And yes, they acknowledged they mistakenly bombed one agency they mistakenly thought was a threat, and have made changes as a result.

If their goal was to prevent aid from Gaza aid wouldn’t get to Gaza.
 
That’s the thing , these guys here are acting like Israel is stupid and doesn’t care about the PR battle.
Good example of this...
Dodging?

Again, you’re trying to suggest aid is getting into Gaza DESPITE Israel…..of course, well, you’re lying. Again….lol….

And yes, they acknowledged they mistakenly bombed one agency they mistakenly thought was a threat, and have made changes as a result.

If their goal was to prevent aid from Gaza aid wouldn’t get to Gaza.
This kind of simplistic BS thing might have worked shilling for the UFC but I think most adults can grasp the idea that the Israelis are playing a PR game, they depend strongly on western support and outright baring all aid would make it much harder for those nations to sell that to their populations.

So instead you get the UNRWA allegations(with no evidence provided), the bombing of aid workers, the setting up of protesters at the boarder, holding back shipments until late in the day, etc.
 
Good example of this...

This kind of simplistic BS thing might have worked shilling for the UFC but I think most adults can grasp the idea that the Israelis are playing a PR game, they depend strongly on western support and outright baring all aid would make it much harder for those nations to sell that to their populations.

So instead you get the UNRWA allegations(with no evidence provided), the bombing of aid workers, the setting up of protesters at the boarder, holding back shipments until late in the day, etc.

Lol at bringing up the ufc………

So you think this is a true statement?

  • The only thing preventing Israel's actions causing much higher loss of life is the aid agencies. A third party. Israel have cut off 95% Gaza's water supply and food production.

lol at you trying to suggest they are playing a PR game, one that YOU see through, but they are fooling their western allies…….but they really want to bar all aid………..

You’re the guy who always thinks he sees things other people can’t see……..
 
Dodging?

Again, you’re trying to suggest aid is getting into Gaza DESPITE Israel…..of course, well, you’re lying. Again….lol….

And yes, they acknowledged they mistakenly bombed one agency they mistakenly thought was a threat, and have made changes as a result.

How could they mistakenly bomb someone who they coordinated with and knew the movements of?

Again you’re not that bright so I understand why you accept Israel at face value but the rest of the world does not.



If their goal was to prevent aid from Gaza aid wouldn’t get to Gaza.

There is a severely limited amount of aid getting in according the UN themselves.
 
How could they mistakenly bomb someone who they coordinated with and knew the movements of?

Again you’re not that bright so I understand why you accept Israel at face value but the rest of the world does not.





There is a severely limited amount of aid getting in according the UN themselves.

  • The only thing preventing Israel's actions causing much higher loss of life is the aid agencies. A third party. Israel have cut off 95% Gaza's water supply and food production.
That’s a lie. You know it’s a lie. But you’ll pretend it’s true.
 

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