Why do you feel that the U.S. has a NEED to take care of Israel?
The best way to do that is go back to the 1969 borders
Concession accepted.
Way to avoid the argument. You're flailing buddy. Civilians are sacrificed toward a strategic objective all the time, Hiroshima was deliberately targeted even though it had no military value. Japenese civilians were the target. Thats a reality of warfare.More justification and rationalization of the most barbaric forms of terrorism.
This is the same logic that would encourage a culture to publicly execute, torture, and drag the corpses of those "convicted" through the street; to string their bodies up fromtreescranes and write some slogan warning the world of their crimes. But wait! Islam already does that, don't they? Why, yes they do. The very nation probably funding most of this attack, in fact.
You’re a good mod but = I’m going to say something that pisses you off but please don’t give me yellows.
lol ok then i hope u dont have kids
Israel should not intentionally target the killing/maiming/murdering/raping/torturing of Palestinian civilians. Anti-Israel combatants should not do the same toward Israeli's. That isn't difficult to say.
The issue is Israel gains nothing from doing such murderous acts. They already have the power and legitimacy of a state. Palestinian extremists can do exactly what they're doing (savagery), hope for Israel to respond and these savages gain political currency if their own people are killed. They want Palestinian civilian deaths, it serves their cause. If that's the position they take, and they hide among the civi's, Palestinians have to excise their own tumors while Israel defends itself. Unfortunately they won't because the average Palestinian is anti-Israel. Israel cannot win in the court of public opinion, but they can stamp out Palestinian murderers with swift response and let them bury their own bodies.
I wonder what you'd say if I told you I thought Timothy McVeigh did what he had to do because of the AWB of 94 and Waco/Ruby Ridge. Had to do something to stop the federal government from continued constitutional erosion, right?
This whole issue is very strange. This is not how reasonably minded people viewed the IRA and the situation is remarkably similar.
The issue is that these actions make people on the international stage less sympathetic to the Palestinians which hurts their diplomatic leverage. Not that they have much to be fair.
I don't think anyone would accept something like Hiroshima or the bombing of Tokyo today though. We tell ourselves comforting myths to justify those past actions but if you tried to take the same approach today you'd be called a war criminal.
These people are hilarious, if the Palestinians protest they get shot and beaten by the IDF, if they attack Israel they're called terrorists, if they call for economic boycotts they're anti-semites lol. They just want Palestinians to go in a corner and die off quietly. Delusional.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were specifically targered because they were not the greatest population centers of Japan. The goal was to end the war more quickly than with a protracted conflict that was already underway, and thereby save far more American (and Allied) lives by forcing Japan to yield. It also arguably saved far more Japanese lives, ultimately. Despite this, it is still debated whether or not the atrocity was necessary. Furthermore, America did not attack Japan first. Japan attacked the US.
