If Joshua convincingly beats Usyk, where does he rank all-time?

Frazier did this to Ali, slipping the jab, then off rhythm jabs and counters while inside Ali's chest
Both of these were boxers with boxing styles really far from Fury, Wlad.
Frazier was short and small target, infighter and sorry, was considerably more fresh than Ali, not alone 39 y.o Wlad. His work also was easier due to Ali guard postions etc alike things.
Vs boxers like Norton or if compare modern days Usyk or Parker or Fury, even vs the same Wlad, Vitali, Lewis, even vs Huck etc boxers this didn't had worked so well rather than with Ali version from 70 ies.
The same Foreman who is usually considered as worse boxer than Ali just due 1 fight vs Ali had dealt vs Norton and Frazier easily, both of these had gave Ali real hell like fights.

Foreman just did one thing: he had prepared and knew in what kind of positions and distance Frazier is more dangerous.
His task was not to allow him get this and start to throw.
Therefore he used his reach advantage and when Frazier started to close distance, pushed him back and landed on him. Complicated things sometimes are very simple.
Foreman had serious power and enough notable reach advantage vs Frazier. Ppl love to talk how Klits used this, Lewis, A.J. Foreman too had used this with a glance.
Ali looks that too was at least partially capable to do this, vs Frazier he had reach advantage and was heavier than Frazier. He still stick to his style from 70 ies and when failed, then attempted to be like Okolie vs Askin alike or Wlad is some his fights.
Ali from 60 ies ofc was different, Frazier not likely might had gave him such problems like vs Ali from 70 ies.
Ali from 70 ies should had drop his style vs Frazier and do vs Frazier the same manner fight like Foreman had did. Nope, he didn't changed his style, unless octopuse, rope and dope and holding added.
Maybe he didn't get that he isn't Ali from 60 ies?
 
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An ATG and a bunch of top 10 wins? Seems like a good way to get on the list, no?
In the history of boxing, there isn't 25 guys with better wins? Idk man, I'm not really sold he's got Ken Norton's resume lol

He's beaten Vlad. That's it.
 
It would be certainly a good win, Usyk isn't a natural size heavyweight, perhaps a small heavyweight, but he recently defeated Chisora, a high level contender in heavyweight, and Usyk also defeated Joe Joyce in amateurs before, and Joyce is now another high level heavyweight contender.



But would that help Joshua to be compared to the legends? Nope. Only Tyson Fury v Joshua will decide that, we didn't see an undisputed heavyweight champ since Lennox Lewis, hopefully with Tyson Fury v Joshua fight we can see another undisputed heavyweight champ after a long time.
 
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Then again, how good was Wladimir considering he had no great rival, lost to a golfer, division was and is weak etc...

People assume Wladimir is a given top 10 even though he didn't beat anybody great. On the other hand, there was no one great fo. Him to beat so he's tricky....

He beat a completely washed up Ray Mercer. Ray says himself that he was at best a gate keeper.
Wlad was hw champ for a decade and regularly fought all the top guys in his weight class.
I'd say Povetkin, Haye and even Sam Peter are all respectable enough wins. He beat 9 undefeated opponents in his title run.
 
if Frazier had in the ring Usyk from WBSS1 pro tournament era, he had ended like Huck vs Usyk not better, I know Usyk maybe does have wrong country of origin. Boxers origin matter 1000x more than real life in all forums and YT comments, kinder garden thing.
If Frazier from 70 ies had in the ring more old Usyk version from fight vs rusty and old Whiterspoon, sorry, Frazier via stoppage here, nothing more.:p
Yeah, Usyk does have very long mileage in ams, he had competed at elite level since 2006 th? in am elite ranks and had long mileage.
 
if Frazier had in the ring Usyk from WBSS1 pro tournament era, he had ended like Huck vs Usyk not better, I know Usyk maybe does have wrong country of origin. Boxers origin matter 1000x more than real life in all forums and YT comments, kinder garden thing.
If Frazier from 70 ies had in the ring more old Usyk version from fight vs rusty and old Whiterspoon, sorry, Frazier via stoppage here, nothing more.:p
Yeah, Usyk does have very long mileage in ams, he had competed at elite level since 2006 th? in am elite ranks and had long mileage.

WTF are you talking about?
 
Nowhere, he isn't an all time great.,
 
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