Is Grappling becoming unpopular?

You only hear that off dumb people, trolls, Conor trolls additionally, and people who are bandwagon jumpers and not real fans of MMA. I don’t think you have anything to worry about.
 
Yeah there’s a lot of tards out here that never grappled

and Conor was just saying that trying to save face.
 
Did I miss the episode where grappling was popular?
 
Grappling with no scrambles, little damage, no threat of a finish SUCKS. Include just one of those elements and I won't bitch. Include more than one and it's exciting.
 
Uncle Bald is actively trying to phase grappling out of the UFC.
 
This one to me has always made me laugh, because when MMA fighters like Conor lose to boxers, they say they would win in an MMA fight. Most likely using wrestling, a tool they don't respect when its used against them.

I really dont think high level boxers would struggle too much with knees elbows and kicks, especially against opponents that don't specialize in them. If Wonderboy thompson lost a fight and said if I could kick it would be different, i'd believe him. But when boxing specialists in MMA lose to a boxer in boxing and say they'd win in MMA, im more inclined to believe they would use their grappling. Which is very ironic.

I can guarantee you if any of these guys who beg to keep it standing COULD take it the ground comfortably and know they would destroy there, they would take it to the floor aswell.
 
Franck Mir, Fedor, Sakuraba and even Ken Shamrock back then were all great entertaining grapplers, that always went for submission. A pity that grappling is assimilated to lay N' pray
 
accolyte1022 said:
Many on this forum heavily prefer striking over grappling.

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Yet they hate boxing, kickboxing and muay thai... it makes no fucking sense. MMA fans are more weird and dumb than pro wrestling these days. And the good ones, they all got scared off platforms like this
 
I enjoy seeing high-level grappling. To change others minds there should be a time limit of holding someone against the fence or having top position without advancing or doing damage.
 
I feel crowds don't boo productive grappling, but they will be merciless with grappling aimed at stalling or preventing a fighter doing work.

If a fighter needs to grapple a more effective striker to stand a chance then that grappling really has to be aggressive not defensive. Sadly there are some grapplers who can get somewhere positionally but aren't very good at actually, you know, fighting.
 
Ogata said:
Lately I have been hearing the whole " whoever shoots first is a bitch" or " lets keep it standing" and of course Conor mentioning that he doesn't count submission losses as real losses. Nate and the other dude talked about keeping it standing.


I am curios to know if grappling an art form that is no longer respected?

I mean regardless how you feel, Conor is still a high profile MMA fighter and him disparaging grappling arts is a big disrespect to the art itself. It seems like striking is far more well respected.
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most of the comments against grappling are strikers who can't stop a takedown.

And while all examples you mentioned were from Connor, what you call "disrespect" I actually call it respect.
Fighters actually fear grapplers so much, they feel the urge to taunt them NOT to use it (so they have a chance).

This is as old as when the Gracies beat fighters with BJJ, and people did not know how to defend. They called it homo and attempted to shame BJJ fighters for fighting on the ground.
Or Wrestlers, with the whole Lay'n'Pray or just "hugging me against the cage" for 5 minutes...

that's as old as MMA exists IMHO.

IMHO those fighters need to embrace and learn, so they are not easily beaten by those he deems inferior "if they only didn't have wrestling"...
 
Grappling is dying bro. It's virtually dead. People of the future will only stand and bang and feint in mma.
 
Fighters w no ground game have been saying this forever. It is nothing new and It has absolutley NOTHING to do with the popularity of grappling.

I didnt think anyone would need to be told this..
 
Love this graphic by flow wrestling
https://www.flowrestling.org/articl...most-ufc-champions-of-any-fighting-discipline

Fighters with a grappling base often end up being champ 65% of the time.
I think only recently are the tides turning where the Champs are more striking heavy.
I think to be an all time great you need to have a very strong ground heavy base - Fedor, GSP, Jones, Stipe, Khabib, Cain, Cormier, Anderson, Usman, Demetrius Johnson, BJ Penn

Only few legends aren't known for being grappling aces - Holloway, Aldo, Volk
 
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This one to me has always made me laugh, because when MMA fighters like Conor lose to boxers, they say they would win in an MMA fight. Most likely using wrestling, a tool they don't respect when its used against them.

I really dont think high level boxers would struggle too much with knees elbows and kicks, especially against opponents that don't specialize in them. If Wonderboy thompson lost a fight and said if I could kick it would be different, i'd believe him. But when boxing specialists in MMA lose to a boxer in boxing and say they'd win in MMA, im more inclined to believe they would use their grappling. Which is very ironic.

I can guarantee you if any of these guys who beg to keep it standing COULD take it the ground comfortably and know they would destroy there, they would take it to the floor aswell.
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Yeah, a bit like manhoef did to nishijimaa
 
Ryan Hall somehow has fans. You can’t say grappling is unpopular.
 
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