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This was/is a boxing thread, I posted there because that's where I was curious, and, thought, this a pretty good overall question, curiosity-wise, as questions go. Truly interested in this one. ... Sometimes the mask is so tight, the prospect of the concept of scrambled eggs seems suspicious of motives or direction. And when obnoxiously, I tend to lean on Freud in jovial conversation or ticked down thought, ...it's like actually ironing with a iron in your hand, and someone walks in. ....Now, that's a plant. If you're ironing with an iron all the time, does it disqualify of a planted thought/chuckle, you, on the grounds of layers of intent, or just intent to be a douche bag.
Layers of intent are always objective, even if their genesis is from deep subconscious well-springs. Even an abstract rendering is absolute in it's manifestation.
Having said that... The single fight that held me captive I did not have the opportunity to watch.. I listened. Hagler vs Leonard. The Iron and irony of words on that day were laughable, but somehow the resonance of Hagler's supremacy wafted up like a righteous burnt offering and pleased me. Only later when I saw it was my release and confirmation complete, despite the scorecards .
I remember exactly where I was when the AM radio waves fed my sound machine all those years ago.