Pereira - Jamahal is a coin flip

[HuskySamoan]

I truly think this fight is that close.
Im baffled by the amount of bros who think this is a lock on either side. Sherbrah gonna sherbrah...

Poatan will be the more dangerous fighter very early on, but as this fight goes on, there will be openings for Hill to capitalize on as Alex isn't as defensively responsible as Jamahal is. Poatan can easily make a couple of mistakes on the feet and get clipped and eat a flurry on the way to a tko finish. This is 100% a real possibility and wouldn't shock me one bit.

Pereira's door to victory is to chop the leg early and then look for a finish after that leg is a bit compromised somewhere in the 2nd round. If he tries to head hunt early, he's either gonna get the KO or get KO'd himself.

I've got Pereira but he better not take Hill likely. As much as we don't really like him on Sherdog he is a very good fighter, with fantastic power in his punches and very very sneaky angles from which they come from. And again, he presents a defensive responsibility that requires strategic entries. Hespect yo opponent mane.

Normally I'd favor Hill honestly, Alex is a bit overrated as a striking, he's super hittable, Jiri was outlanding him but kept foolishly closing distance where Alex had the upper hand. Ottoni was rocking Alex standing too, Jan was able to go tit for tat as a 40 something year old. But Hill is coming off a serious injury, had a big gut and took the fight on short notice for extra pay....Cannot favor Hill here.

 

[filthybliss]

I think Pereira is being underestimated and Hill overestimated imo but that being said Pereira is getting old and we have seen him ktfo’d once in the octagon already..

Poatan is being underestimated? He’s got fans almost as unhinged as Khabib and Do Bronx, Hill has pretty much nobody betting on him here because of his injury and his personality+physique gets him side-eyed

 

[loisestrad]

Sucks, I thought it was gonna be an MMA fight.

 

[NationWideNinja]

Idk, to me it seems like Hill’s ground game is good enough to control Alex and his stand up is good enough to not get completely outclassed on the feet.

I think we need to retire the notion that Pereira is some uber-bum on the ground who will get controlled by anyone with a hint of wrestling.

Dudes been wrestling with Glover for years now and has shown against Jan and and Jiri that he can hold his own on the ground and can consistently get up.

 

[NationWideNinja]

Alex is hittable, and Hill has sneaky timing, angles, and accuracy. Add to that Hill's natural power and I wouldnt be surprised in the slightest if he get the (t)ko finish.

I do think if Hill decides to mainly strike that giving Pereira —the Glory double champ— only a 50% chance is a bit unfair. But I do think that its FAR from some gimme match for Pereira.

 

[CatchtheseHands]

Yeah, when he gets aggressive and tired he takes a lot of risks, he tends to rush toward with his head/chin stuck way out and Alex arguably has the best counter hook in MMA right now.

Cardio MIGHT be in his favour I spose but my feeling is Hill will actually be most dangerous early in this fight, when Alex gets a chance to work kicks(as mentioned potentially more to the body as vs Jan he was very effective with) and both men get tired and less technical I think that potentially benefits Alex.

I would say in terms of calling it though its one of those matchups which doesnt seem to have a really obvious clash of styles which benefits one man over the other, it will likely come down much more to specifics in technique not "grappler beats striker" or the reverse.

Well said. Yeah my opinion right now is pretty much that Jamahal has the better chance of winning within 3 rounds, but if it goes past 3 it most definitely favors Alex. Jamahal's power seems to fall off in the later rounds as he hasn't KO'ed anyone on the feet in rounds 3-5. He TKO'ed OSP and Santos in the 3rd and 4th but it seemed more like they were exhausted than actually being hurt, plus they were eating bombs from him and still standing.. Where as Alex's KO power carries throughout the whole fight.

 

[RockyLockridge]

I see alex with more tools. I see Hill having to beat alex at what he's best atl. I don't view hill as a storied striking specialist.

 

[AmonTobin]

I picked Hill. I'm impressed by his standup work. He is one hell of a dynamic fighter. The man gave up the belt when he was injured which is commendable. It would be nice to see him win it back fair and square.

 

[PaddyO'malley]

So who won the coin toss fam? Pereira better not be striking first fam that's cheating bro hits too hard I think Jamahill can take it tho

 

[moreorless87]

Well said. Yeah my opinion right now is pretty much that Jamahal has the better chance of winning within 3 rounds, but if it goes past 3 it most definitely favors Alex. Jamahal's power seems to fall off in the later rounds as he hasn't KO'ed anyone on the feet in rounds 3-5. He TKO'ed OSP and Santos in the 3rd and 4th but it seemed more like they were exhausted than actually being hurt, plus they were eating bombs from him and still standing.. Where as Alex's KO power carries throughout the whole fight.

I'd say he tends to depend a bit more on raw power rather than timing compared to Alex.

 

[pick999]

hill has been out along time i think that might cost him in the fight

 

[Mind Mine]

Pereira has one way to win by KO. Hill has many ways to win.If Hill mixes things up he wins. If not I lean Pereira

 

[Kratos94]

Hill isn't very good, LHW is just terrible.

 

[chinarice]

I notice how this thread indicates it wasn't lol omg Hill sucks and Pereira will beat him like the bum he is.

Everyone comes out of the woodwork after the fight pretending they were so smart and knew all along but i bet 90 percent of those posters show no history of discussing the fight like it's a foregone conclusion pereira would beat Hill easily

Sherdog 101 baby!

 

[Kevin Sorbo]

I notice how this thread indicates it wasn't lol omg Hill sucks and Pereira will beat him like the bum he is.

Everyone comes out of the woodwork after the fight pretending they were so smart and knew all along but i bet 90 percent of those posters show no history of discussing the fight like it's a foregone conclusion pereira would beat Hill easily

Sherdog 101 baby!

I picked Pereira by 3rd round TKO/KO on Tapology. I thought the fight would last longer than it did, though i figured Pereira would catch him at some point.

 

[blackheart]

I notice how this thread indicates it wasn't lol omg Hill sucks and Pereira will beat him like the bum he is.

Everyone comes out of the woodwork after the fight pretending they were so smart and knew all along but i bet 90 percent of those posters show no history of discussing the fight like it's a foregone conclusion pereira would beat Hill easily

Sherdog 101 baby!

I posted a thread declaring Alex by easy KO. It was easy as shit to see this outcome from a mile away. Journeyman vs an elite pedigreed world champion - gee I wonder what will happen.

 

[Royce's Gi]

I truly think this fight is that close.
Im baffled by the amount of bros who think this is a lock on either side. Sherbrah gonna sherbrah...

Poatan will be the more dangerous fighter very early on, but as this fight goes on, there will be openings for Hill to capitalize on as Alex isn't as defensively responsible as Jamahal is. Poatan can easily make a couple of mistakes on the feet and get clipped and eat a flurry on the way to a tko finish. This is 100% a real possibility and wouldn't shock me one bit.

Pereira's door to victory is to chop the leg early and then look for a finish after that leg is a bit compromised somewhere in the 2nd round. If he tries to head hunt early, he's either gonna get the KO or get KO'd himself.

I've got Pereira but he better not take Hill likely. As much as we don't really like him on Sherdog he is a very good fighter, with fantastic power in his punches and very very sneaky angles from which they come from. And again, he presents a defensive responsibility that requires strategic entries. Hespect yo opponent mane.

I definitely don't think it's a 50/50 coinflip.

i could see Potato being so bold as to immobilize "Over The" Hill by stepping on his foot (yes, his footwork is just that good, you won't see it coming) and then knocking him out, limiting Hills movement.

 

[chinarice]

I posted a thread declaring Alex by easy KO. It was easy as shit to see this outcome from a mile away. Journeyman vs an elite pedigreed world champion - gee I wonder what will happen.

Like no elite kickboxer/MT guy has got their chin checked before in MMA.

It's fine you called it but their striking pedigree doesn't make things a foregone conclusion, otherwise Gokhan Saki wouldn't have been shadowrealmed standing by Khalil Roundtree

 

[blackheart]

Like no elite kickboxer/MT guy has got their chin checked before in MMA.

Good and elite aren't the same thing. Cro Cop wasn't a world champion during his UFC run.

It's fine you called it but their striking pedigree doesn't make things a foregone conclusion, otherwise Gokhan Saki wouldn't have been shadowrealmed standing by Khalil Roundtree

This is probably the best (and maybe only??) example of a truly elite kickboxer getting chin checked in MMA. But "shadowrealmed"? Lol Saki didn't even go out man. It was a competitive back and forth fight and Saki literally just got caught with a big overhand. Never went out. Got finished by weak gnp because he wasn't intelligently defending.

The other obvious thing to point out with this example, is that Gokhan Saki was pretty damn undersized for a LHW. 6'0 with a 73" reach, with plenty of bodyfat around his midsection at 205. The dude was a lazy middleweight or even possibly a welterweight, that didn't wanna cut weight.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Him getting controlled by Jan, and losing imo, is what mainly makes me doubt Alex being a dominant champion.

If you scored that fight for Jan, you should go back to watching college wrestling meets in the bleachers. Alex did more damage to Jan from the bottom than Jan got off during the entire fight. Jan couldn't get off his ass at the end of the fight.
This fight just showed who fell for the "Alex is chinny" meme or thought that Hill could finish Alex while being unable to finish Glover over 25 minutes.
"But he knocked out Johnny Walker!"

Good and elite aren't the same thing. Cro Cop wasn't a world champion during his UFC run.

This is probably the best (and maybe only??) example of a truly elite kickboxer getting chin checked in MMA. But "shadowrealmed"? Lol Saki didn't even go out man. It was a competitive back and forth fight and Saki literally just got caught with a big overhand. Never went out. Got finished by weak gnp because he wasn't intelligently defending.

The other obvious thing to point out with this example, is that Gokhan Saki was pretty damn undersized for a LHW. 6'0 with a 73" reach, with plenty of bodyfat around his midsection at 205. The dude was a lazy middleweight or even possibly a welterweight, that didn't wanna cut weight.

You are attempting to speak sensibly to one of the less sensible people(?) on this forum, good luck with that.