Thanks for the information, definitively gonna check that!
Thanks for the information, definitively gonna check that!
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What's the boxing collector insta chat group?
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Edgar who runs the Boxing Collector site and used to be very active on here set up a group on Instagram of customers, glove fans etc. I only check in occasionally. But it's useful for stuff like sourcing gloves.
Received the gloves and tried them on the bag quickly. So just a quick review. Before I must say that I'm used to my winning 16oz that I use now since 6years. My winning are very very soft, I can literally squish them like a sponge. I don't remember at the start if they were like that. The padding still good for sparring, but I don't know if the wrist support is still supporting something... Winning are so expensive, it's sad to realize that they are not lasting forever...
Anyway about the PowerLock 2, they are very snug. My hand plus handwrap fit but forget about having knuckle guard. They are in overall very stiff, but again I'm used to very soft. The padding is a hard one, very nice pop on the bag. The lace system is very well done, I put my lacenLoop with the "Suave System" it's working very nicely. I must say my wrists seems lock.
They have an industrial feel, for the price it's normal. They remind me of the rival RS11v which I dont like because they never break in and the padding is super hard. The powerlock has a better wrist support and since it's real leather, I have good hope that they will break in nicely.
If they don't, I don't think I would spar with them, even at 16oz, way too hard. So to resume, seems good, the wrist technology seems to actually work compare to the Rival and their "angle" that honestly make no difference, but it will depend of how much they soften with time to make them a good glove.
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I sent back the Powerlock 2 for a refund, there was a little hole in the leather on the punching area which is definitely not good for the evolution of the glove... So I guess the quality service is not the best in Everlast. But I got my hand on a pair of second hands Winning 14oz gloves, in very good condition. And I'm surprised, the 14oz is actually like the 12oz, small and snug compare to the 16oz that are huge with a lot of room inside the hand compartiment which make it not great to punch the bag with, but with more protection than the 12oz.
I post pictures of my 3 winnings, the red 12oz are totally new, and I'm selling them, not enough protection for my hands. Preferably inside the EU, to avoid mad custom, but don't hesitate to contact me if interested.
I post pictures of my 3 winnings, the red 12oz are totally new, and I'm selling them, not enough protection for my hands. Preferably inside the EU, to avoid mad custom, but don't hesitate to contact me if interested.
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Opted for a pair of Yokkao shorts which absolutely love - great quality and construction with cool design which is less weird and 'tapout-ish' than a lot of Thai shorts. (Will try and add pics to this post later)
Have ordered a pair of their 12 oz gloves to see if the quality carries over (a friend has told me that they're his preferred brand of thai gloves so lets see). Thinking about some boxing gloves which err on the softer side for my bag work so looking at various suggestions in this thread.
Got another pair of the Yokkao shorts on order to add to the rotation, also looking for recs on good quality and fit rashguards for no gi too so feel free to throw any this wya.
Have ordered a pair of their 12 oz gloves to see if the quality carries over (a friend has told me that they're his preferred brand of thai gloves so lets see). Thinking about some boxing gloves which err on the softer side for my bag work so looking at various suggestions in this thread.
Got another pair of the Yokkao shorts on order to add to the rotation, also looking for recs on good quality and fit rashguards for no gi too so feel free to throw any this wya.
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I sold all my boxing gloves due to financial issue (unemployed for 6 months). I sold 2 pair of sabas, 1 pair of winning , 1 pair of rival RB11, 1 pair of boxeo, 1 pair of Fly x, and keep my cleto reyes only. I will be using just cleto reyes for now. If my economy get better and I need to spar, I probably will get phenom gloves next time. Expensive gloves like winning just make me hesitant to use them.
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Which model of Ring to Cage is a Winning clone? Thanks!
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Opinions on Boon/Windy/Ring2Cage?
I'm looking for MT padwork gloves either 10-12oz and would be curious to know about the differences people have found, as they're a lot less talked about than Fairtex/Twins/Yokkao
I'm looking for MT padwork gloves either 10-12oz and would be curious to know about the differences people have found, as they're a lot less talked about than Fairtex/Twins/Yokkao
My Boon 16 oz's are my favorite all around glove. However I have some Boon 10oz's and they have a tiny hand compartment. Literally hard to get my hand in with wraps and I have fairly small hands. Just FYI.
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New glove time and just bought my first pair of Hit n Move All Day Balance @ 16oz.
Seemed to be a lot of positive stuff around these as good quality training/sparring gloves that both protect hands well but provide pop on the bag at a good price point - I paid £200 which was coming in cheaper than Reyes, RIvals Guerrero and the italian-made Superares which were the main competitors I looked at
Seemed to be a lot of positive stuff around these as good quality training/sparring gloves that both protect hands well but provide pop on the bag at a good price point - I paid £200 which was coming in cheaper than Reyes, RIvals Guerrero and the italian-made Superares which were the main competitors I looked at
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Some how i managed to piss off Kazumichi at Winning USA. He no longer responds to me. So this helps a lot. I'm on the verge of giving up altogether on Winning though. Just not worth the hassle.
UPDATE: Winning USA got back to me and accused me of some ish I didn't even say. I tried winningglovesglobal and no response after 24 hours. I think I'm done with Winning - selling the same product for over 20 years, no innovations, not even real leather, the availability keeps going down, and the prices keep going up - on top of the worst customer service experience in recent memory.
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Bought some Winning MS600 from Kazumichi, just had to wait one month. No problem at all, everything went smoothly. And Winning do change their product. My MS-600 that I bought 7years ago are different that the one I just received. The new one are more snugged, less pillowy. I actually think that they are a little bit too stiff for Winning which have a very soft reputation. The shape of the thumb is also different, little bit thinner that before, the tag is different too. Leather is real, the headgear are synthetic to be lighter, and they are incredibly light. At the end some little change, but nothing major, which is perfect because those gloves are perfect. People think that Winning is awesome because of the sensation. But they are not. They are very durable, and they are very reliable. You know each time you put your glove that your hands are safe and that you'll not hurt them no matter what happen. And that is priceless.
I don't know what you say to Kazumichi to piss him off, but very good experience for me. For the delay and the price, Winning seems to have make the choice to not become a huge factory that make product like Everlast or Rival and to continue to hand made their gloves and to have a very good quality control, so there is a lot of delay because the demands is very high, and when the demands is higher than the offer, price tends to rise. America seems to be pissed off with basic capitalism, ready to switch to socialism apparently
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I'd ordered from him before. Have spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars with him. Directed people to his site since 2008. Thought we had a good rapport. Messaged him asking about backorder times. Told him i saw really long backorder times on other sites like WJapan and I wanted to know if the backorder times on the Winning USA site were still accurate (which are 3 or 4 months currently depending on color). He flipped out on me, typing in all caps "NEVER ask me about WJapan again, SAYONARA". I apologized stating that wasn't my intention, he sent me back a copy of my mail. About 5 hours later someone else from Winning USA wrote me back and accused me of asking about another company's inventory. The thing is, I never asked about WJapan. I only asked about their own backorder times. I speak, read, and write Japanese so I've really been considering taking them to task, because that is NOT how Japanese companies do customer service. Absolutely horrible. Done sending money to that cranky old man. Should really improve his English comprehension if he's going to be flipping out on customers.
FWIW - the Winnings I ordered in 2015 are exactly like what I'm seeing at the gym, so I have no idea what you had 8 years ago, but that statement doesn't jive with my experience.
Call me a socialist if you want. I'm done pretending Winning are actually good gloves.
On their website they put limitations of orders and prices. I think they realized that some companies were doing some huge orders to have some stocks to sell gloves at a higher prices, and it was fucking with their own customers orders. They must be under thousands of emails asking for gloves every weeks. That the consequences of success!
Winning gloves are different since years ago, it's just little details, nothing major:
Thumb is different in shape (blue is new, black is old):
The border on the font is black on the new gloves, no border on the old one:
And the new tag:
And the padding is stiffer than before, which I guess will be softer after few rounds. But the older where very very soft directly outside of the box. Saying that Winning are not good gloves because you had some bad email from their service is a little exigerated. I tried almost all the brands, and I always come back to Winning, even if I don't particulary like their design. It's the only gloves that keep my hands pain free training after training... The closest I found are the Adidas Adispeed, which I recommand to everybody that do not want to spend too much money. But the inner lining is too loose and I dont very like it, but it's a minor point.
Winning gloves are different since years ago, it's just little details, nothing major:
Thumb is different in shape (blue is new, black is old):
The border on the font is black on the new gloves, no border on the old one:
And the new tag:
And the padding is stiffer than before, which I guess will be softer after few rounds. But the older where very very soft directly outside of the box. Saying that Winning are not good gloves because you had some bad email from their service is a little exigerated. I tried almost all the brands, and I always come back to Winning, even if I don't particulary like their design. It's the only gloves that keep my hands pain free training after training... The closest I found are the Adidas Adispeed, which I recommand to everybody that do not want to spend too much money. But the inner lining is too loose and I dont very like it, but it's a minor point.
