Should calf kicks become an illegal strike?

[Carrotman23]

Ban all striking and mean looks

 

[chrisdiaz]

Fighters need to learn to check em, if someone checks a calf kick and their leg breaks Anderson Silva style that shit would stop quick.

This is exactly what I said last night during the commentary.

 

[Stranger Come Knocking]

Fuck that. We are going to see a resurgence of the karate style movement, because boxers are too fucking static to defend against calf kicks.
Thats like saying we should ban jabs and straights, because they are too popular.

This. While its boring now I think it will.be exciting or at least interesting to see style evolve around it.

 

[Kid Quick]

**Thread merged. I don't believe they should be banned. This wasn't my thread title**

Calf kick, calf kick, calf kick. Whether in commentary form or spamming them in the fight. I know sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to win, but since it exploded in popularity it's getting a bit old. Even the commentators just brought up this mindset as I'm typing this. I can't wait until somebody brings a counter to MMA and slow this stuff down. As Bisping just said, I don't want to start seeing calf kick competitions.

Weidman has the counter down pat. He snapped Silvas leg with it.

 

[Kid Quick]

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[Mr Fahrenheit]

That Munoz-Rivera fight was entertaining as fuck.

Yes, because they threw bombs the entire time and fortunately for us Rivera sucked it up and fought for fifteen minutes instead of collapsing. I can’t even imagine the action if Rivera wasn’t hobbled.

FWIW, I’m not someone who thinks calf kicks automatically ruin a fight. I enjoy a tactical battle, and if calf kicks are part of the attack, so be it. But it certainly has the potential to make a fight less entertaining, which isn’t something that the UFC and other promotions are keen on.

My point isn’t that the kicks are in immediate jeopardy, it’s that companies/commissions aren’t automatically may not default to “learn defense” forever.

 

[Enrico Palazzo]

Just ban anything that could hurt Conor.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

No they will soon be fizzled out when a method of defending them becomes popular.

Everyone tries to move back. You gotta move forward.

Step in with the lead leg toward your kicking opponent and fire a 2 straight down the pipe.

The kicker wants their lower shin, right above the foot, to hit your calf. Not the side of your leg, but almost the back of it. That bundle of nerves will hamper foot movement completely if damaged. It's almost like instant, acute carpal tunnel for your foot.

So stepping in usually causes the kicker's upper shin/knee to hit roughly the same spot on the defender, and the defender can counter.

Seems like mma is the only combat sport with kicking that hasn't figured it out yet.

 

[Human Bass]

Weidman has the counter down pat. He snapped Silvas leg with it.

That is more a counter to a thigh kick.

 

[Kid Quick]

That is more a counter to a thigh kick.

They can be checked though.

 

[elwani]

Awesome, basically ban everything that isn’t a roundhouse to the face, including all blocking and footwork. Every fight KO.

 

[Herbanii]

I love it, should bring back stomps groin strikes/kicks and soccer kicks too so we can see who really is the best fighters.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

And who is saying you can't check them? Lol yes you can. You just can't check them like it's a kick to your thigh.

We've seen dudes in the UFC check them, years ago lol "can't check them" get outta here.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

And who is saying you can't check them? Lol yes you can. You just can't check them like it's a kick to your thigh.

We've seen dudes in the UFC check them, years ago lol "can't check them" get outta here.

I couldnt agree more


Its not hard to deal with them...

Two methods


1) Step into the strike with a out turned lead leg ( very common in karate and other TMA) so that the knee and shin are pointing towards the attacking kick and intercepts it while striking with rear hand with a power straight or any hand combination the user wants..


2) the Muay thai style counter is to counter with a kick...or clinch... Raise the lead leg completely off the ground, erasing the original target area then follow thru with a wide step down of the lead leg and respond with a roundhouse kick from the rear leg to the head or body or leg ..this is very common in Real THAI fights ..lumpini stadium shit.. or once the leg is lifted and kick misses alot of thais opt to enter the clinch right away as the opponent can not move due to kick recovery...Izzy has used the first variation in the Octagon already...


The answers r out...guys are just playing the macho game or arent drilling it...

No way leg kick will hurt me....guy gets kickd 30 fucking times lmfao....embarassing

 

[Franklin U.]

Of course not. The CALF IS A MUSCLE. This is fucking cage fighting.

...and that's all I have to say on matter.

 

[Sticko]

Like this?

These are not calf kicks, he's hitting the knee and lower thigh

 

[SeattleFightFan]

Learn Savate and you will learn how to deal with calf kick

Elaborate please

 

[aerius]

Ban everything, winner is determined by crowd vote or follower count after the walkouts.

Dance off is the answer.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

Why should they

They shouldn’t. They won’t. It’s all ironic.

This entire thread is about Bisping riffing about it in a joking manner last night, and it’s clear that over half the “hard core fans” on this thread didn’t even watch the best fight of the night last night.

The calf kick evolution these last 2 years is one of the most fascinating evolutions in the sport in 2 decades. Defenses will evolve, and I bet most fans won’t even see them when they do.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

I couldnt agree more


Its not hard to deal with them...

Two methods


1) Step into the strike with a out turned lead leg ( very common in karate and other TMA) so that the knee and shin are pointing towards the attacking kick and intercepts it while striking with rear hand with a power straight or any hand combination the user wants..


2) the Muay thai style counter is to counter with a kick...or clinch... Raise the lead leg completely off the ground, erasing the original target area then follow thru with a wide step down of the lead leg and respond with a roundhouse kick from the rear leg to the head or body or leg ..this is very common in Real THAI fights ..lumpini stadium shit.. or once the leg is lifted and kick misses alot of thais opt to enter the clinch right away as the opponent can not move due to kick recovery...Izzy has used the first variation in the Octagon already...


The answers r out...guys are just playing the macho game or arent drilling it...

No way leg kick will hurt me....guy gets kickd 30 fucking times lmfao....embarassing

Both involve weight mostly distributed on the back foot, no?

So we just may not see a lot of guys leaning forward with a wide stance just out of boxing range anymore.