Opinion The end of the War on Islam

Fun fact: In Hilary Clinton's leaked emails she mentioned that Saudi Arabia and Qatar had been funding IS. The American government knew about this and still proceeded with the biggest arms deal of all time selling weapons and military equipment to Saudi Arabia. The American government has been knowingly providing IS with weapons and equipment. Why? One, because the MIC and The War on Terror is one of the easiest ways to take bllions of your taxpayer money and put it into the pockets of the elites. Two, because these jihadist factions are invaluable for fighting wars on behalf of America and Israel, wars that the American people would oppose such as the war against Syria. Your real enemies are in your government.
 
I think the Muslim community deserves credit for self policing over the last 4 years. When trump was elected, there was a terrorist attack every few weeks in Europe. Since that time there has been a quite dramatic reduction in the number of attacks. That doesn't happen out of the blue.
 
MacGregor said:
Speaking of radical, would you be ok with your daughter being 'circumcised' if you lived in say Somalia.
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Only male genitals should be mutilated, its the American way.
 
mantis_fist said:
Bullshit. The whole media went full on crusades after 9/11. It was literally on TV 24/7. Islam this, Islam that. What are you going to say next that those Iraqis bombed themselves to oblivion too...US has created this world and now it's trying to blame somebody else for their incompetence. US linked religion of Islam to terrorism while they were terrorizing those they labeled as such. And guess what? Nobody is in prison for those wars.
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The media and US government were constantly stating this was not a war on Islam, that it was a war against terrorism. Bush Jnr , along with others, said Islam was a religion of peace.

It is ridiculously simplistic to say the US created this world. It would be more accurate to say the Western establishment, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Wahhabism, Islam, the Israel lobby, Israel, Arab dictators, Saudi evangelism, US support for the Mujaheddin, US support for Islamists against Arab secularists, Sunni-Shia sectarianism, tribalism etc... all played big parts.

How is it that Muslims countries and apologists - who are quick to blame the US - had no issue with the West when the West was supporting the: Mujaheddin or when the West was bombing Serbia or when the West supported the Suharto regime while it was waging a genocidal war against the East Timorese or when the US and its allies backed Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war or when the US backed Pakistan as it was waging genocide in Bangladesh. Yet these same folks are quick to play victim and complain about the US when Iraq and Afghanistan were attacked by the US.
 
Graves The Elder said:
Islam is the religion and lifestyle mandate of the future.
It is the duty of every acolyte to promote and further the promulgation of Islam at whatever cost.
The goal is not to 'assimilate and co-exist', it is to demand the world adheres to the tenets of
this godly, chosen practice of worship of Allah, in his beneficence and holy wisdom.
Allahu Akbar
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And this vile attitude is precisely why Islam will always and should always be kept in its place and kept in check, and not allowed to be promulgated much in the West.

The revelations of an Arab warlord have little to do with the wider world outside the middle East and no place there.



Islam has never been a religion of peace.
The fact the non-muslims now have overwhelming military and technological superiority in the modern era is righteous justice come full circle.
 
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EL CORINTHIAN said:
When it comes to Europe, they have generally accepted that massive waves of Islamic migration is rather unpopular and a threat to the union in general. Right wing populism and their views on bolstering up the borders is on the rise and are now finally being accepted as common sense.

Islamism is viewed as a threat where it makes sense and it has calmed down where it hasn't. I have said this repeatedly about Trump but one of the issues that really propelled his anti-illegal immigration campaign was the cluster fuck that was the migration crisis in Europe. People saw what was happening due to the Syrian civil war and how it affected Europe and the idea of building a wall looked really attractive. In America it was a boogeyman but it helped fuel that sentiment of border security. In Europe it's still perceived as an issue because it threatens their project and they know it.
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Rightwing populism aka facism.
 
mantis_fist said:
If US would keep its nose clean, it wouldn't made the mess it's in right now. "They hate our way of life" while bombing the fuck out of them.
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And yet the Org of Islamic Countries didn't have an issue with America supporting:

The Mujaheddin
The Suharto regime waging genocide on the non-Muslim East Timorese
Pakistan waging genocide in Bangladesh
Bombing Serbia
Supporting Iraq against Iran
Supporting the Wahhabis and Islamists against Arab secularists
 
While I'm glad that the US isn't trying to bomb an ideology anymore, fuck Islam still. Any religion with a prophet who bangs 9 year olds is #1 bullshit.
 
It's almost as if most people aren't at all represented by their leaders, their mass media, or the most assertive of their countrymen.

“Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or fascist dictatorship, or a parliament or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
― Hermann Goering

That said, Muslim majority countries, when they go full Muslim, are shot. Just like any other fanaticism when it takes the helm.
 
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MacGregor said:
I don't have a horse in the race, a simple yes or no would suffice.
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This has been discussed to death, FGM has no basis in Islam, it’s cultural. There are Christian countries that do it, and there are plenty of Muslims countries that don’t. In Northern Somalia the project to eradicate FGM is using Imams to tell people it’s Un Islamic.
 
MicroBrew said:
And yet the Org of Islamic Countries didn't have an issue with America supporting:

The Mujaheddin
The Suharto regime waging genocide on the non-Muslim East Timorese
Pakistan waging genocide in Bangladesh
Bombing Serbia
Supporting Iraq against Iran
Supporting the Wahhabis and Islamists against Arab secularists
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Wahabis are in bed with Arab secularists, what rock are you living under? You think wahabis like people like Erdogan and the Muslim Brotherhood? Lmao.
 
moosaev said:
This has been discussed to death, FGM has no basis in Islam, it’s cultural. There are Christian countries that do it, and there are plenty of Muslims countries that don’t. In Northern Somalia the project to eradicate FGM is using Imams to tell people it’s Un Islamic.
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So that's a no?
 
moosaev said:
This has been discussed to death, FGM has no basis in Islam, it’s cultural. There are Christian countries that do it, and there are plenty of Muslims countries that don’t. In Northern Somalia the project to eradicate FGM is using Imams to tell people it’s Un Islamic.
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Which Christian country cuts off a girls clitoris.
 
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