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nightmare fuel
I’d say it’s pretty major. It’s going to disrupt and cause extra traffic for quite a while.Is this a major bridge in the area of a secondary bridge?
It's obviously a tragedy for all the lives lost but I'm wondering how badly it's gonna interrupt life in the area for the next few years, will it be a minor inconvenience not to have that route available or is it gonna cause a complete disruption of lives and traffic nightmares everywhere
Yeah, you can see the power going out twice. After the first time, when the power comes back on you can see a plume of black smoke from the ship, its been suggested that was from the diesel powered generator firing up but then the power goes out again. Just awful. Can't imagine the panic on board when the power went out.Exactly...
If you watch the video you can see where it appears that they lose power at least twice before the collision. I would venture to bet that aft propulsion and steering was also lost as well, helping to contribute to this tragedy.
Fuck man... Seeing shit like this brings back some pretty shitty memories. My own ship had a collision in 1999 and it was a harrowing experience.
The ONLY time I have ever heard the triplet chirp of the collision alarm outside of daily testing...
Still fucks with me to this day
Is this a major bridge in the area of a secondary bridge?
It's obviously a tragedy for all the lives lost but I'm wondering how badly it's gonna interrupt life in the area for the next few years, will it be a minor inconvenience not to have that route available or is it gonna cause a complete disruption of lives and traffic nightmares everywhere
Yeah, you can see the power going out twice. After the first time, when the power comes back on you can see a plume of black smoke from the ship, its been suggested that was from the diesel powered generator firing up but then the power goes out again. Just awful. Can't imagine the panic on board when the power went out.
And this is supposedly the cargo ship that was involved. I've seen reports that the hull has been breeched.
As someone who steers similar ships and who has some knowledge about ship navigation in inland waterways I can say it's most likely mechanical error leading to an inability to navigate. It's possible it's user error but a ship in any inland waterway has a "pilot" on watch on the "bridge" who's either a permanent crew member or more than likely in this case, is a member of the pilots association and is a "local" who by the nature of their job is very familiar with that specific waterway.
International, "deep sea" vessels have a pilot, a captain, a mate, and multiple "watchmen/ab's" on watch in the pilot house observing and acting to make sure the ship navigates safely, not to mention multiple crew members monitoring systems from below the decks in the "engine control room"...
This is really dark...
*Edit: they were going 8kts when they hit the bridge, and apparently had an explosion on board which cut their power twice. Without power a ship can't steer. These ships also have crew standing by the anchors for emergencies but anchors don't work when moving that fast...
Yup. Wheeling on the lakes.You were on some Lakers IIRC ?
Yup. Wheeling on the lakes.
I remember you mentioning that, we've definitely crossed paths. I've probably waved to you and you grimaced and refused to wave back! Or maybe it was the other way around...I was breaking ice as a bridge watch, deck and conning officer and dropping buoys up there 09-12 and 15-18.
This is crazy,
My knowledge of boats is limited of course I been on a few for fishing, boats n ho's and all that . But even with the power lost weren't their path too close anyways because of the time it takes to stir it ?
Yea my point is, I guess even if they didn't lose power twice they would not been able to stop from hitting it? well in that video maybe is was malfunctioning longer than then in the vid.A ship that size going 8 knots takes at least a mile to stop. And that's if you have power to back on it but if there's no power it would take miles to come to a stop at that speed.
Yeah, you're right. If they never lost power but for whatever reason lost the ability to move the rudder it would take a mile + to stop herYea my point is, I guess even if they didn't lose power twice they would not been able to stop from hitting it? well in that video maybe is was malfunctioning longer than then in the vid.
I remember you mentioning that, we've definitely crossed paths. I've probably waved to you and you grimaced and refused to wave back! Or maybe it was the other way around...
This is crazy,
My knowledge of boats is limited of course I been on a few for fishing, boats n ho's and all that . But even with the power lost weren't their path too close anyways because of the time it takes to stir it ?
It's a nightmare for local residents.Is this a major bridge in the area of a secondary bridge?
It's obviously a tragedy for all the lives lost but I'm wondering how badly it's gonna interrupt life in the area for the next few years, will it be a minor inconvenience not to have that route available or is it gonna cause a complete disruption of lives and traffic nightmares everywhere