Social Why is woke trash so prevalent in densely populated areas?

[mommas homeboy]

That argument is faulted because there is a huge difference....the Small potatoes are not contributing. People hate on the wealthy but The wealthy pay more in taxes by 10 fold as do corporations who also provide structure, taxes and jobs. Yes there is some BS bailouts and there is definite corruption and waste, but that happens everywhere including Government. The only thing I will truly disagree however is putting the middle class in with the Poor. The middle get NO handouts and are actually the ones on the negative end of the stick in all cases. Perfect example is education. The Middle struggle to put our kids through college to raise good contributing members of society. The wealthy don't blink an eye, and the poor go for free.

People hate the wealthy because they aren’t wealthy themselves. The poorest areas of the country have the most hate and envy towards the wealthiest people. Throw in the racial disparity and you have people like the Squad and Bernie. It infuriates them to the point that steam is shooting out their ears and foam is dribbling from their mouths.

To me, the main difference between liberals and conservatives is that conservatives accept that life is hard, and unfair. Liberals have their heads exploding with rage that the government doesn’t control every aspect of society to ensure everyone has the same thing (communism), and is fair. Unfortunately for progressive trash, that will never happen.

 

[12ga.]

Without the workers those corporations wouldn’t exist.
Without the buyers those corporations wouldn’t exist.

Now who need who the most?

heh... neither...I'd rather go back to being a hunter-gatherer - wild? you bet but caged wild animals usually don’t breed and get depressed and sometimes can't eat no matter how well treated in the cage. I can't think of much more caging to human spirit than being a corporate cog. I worked for the state - not much better esp with group think wokism/equity taking over but you couldnt fire me for being myself.

(was really hard like drugs found in desk or something)

 

[evansusmc2]

LMFAO, our billionaire ex-president doesn't even pay taxes. By his rationale, anyone tricking the government to mooch off of them "makes them smart".

Thread hijack in progress.

 

[ocean size]

People hate the wealthy because they aren’t wealthy themselves. The poorest areas of the country have the most hate and envy towards the wealthiest people. Throw in the racial disparity and you have people like the Squad and Bernie. It infuriates them to the point that steam is shooting out their ears and foam is dribbling from their mouths.

To me, the main difference between liberals and conservatives is that conservatives accept that life is hard, and unfair. Liberals have their heads exploding with rage that the government doesn’t control every aspect of society to ensure everyone has the same thing (communism), and is fair. Unfortunately for progressive trash, that will never happen.

Honestly nothing personal, but you are a quintessential useful idiot.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

City dwellers seem to be completely removed from reality of how things work outside of their little privileged bubbles. They have very different concerns and priorities to those out in say, a rural area.

Energy is just there, so is water and unlimited food at the stores so they aren't the priorities that they are in other places... so inner city people seem to waste their time prioritising complete bullshit issues as all their base needs are already met.

"City dwellers" are 80% of the population in the US, so who exactly is removed from reality? Your reality is going to be determined by your living conditions.
And what is "privileged" about living in a shitty urban area?
You can acknowledge that we have different concerns and priorities, and then go on to say that the concerns of "city dwellers" are bullshit, while romanticizing people in rural environments as benevolent saints that are giving the rest of us water and food.

This ignores all of the giant mega corporation farms and all of the migrants working on them. Also ignores that much of what allows the US and other Western countries to live the life of lavish that we do is because even poorer countries make our shit for cheap.
How many Americans are relying on hunting for food or securing clean water?

 

[SmilinDesperado]

We live in the most successful country on planet earth. There are going to be trade offs, but I'll meet and agree with you on healthcare

What metrics are you using to measure success?
Americans say this a lot as if the rest of the world is a shithole. Americans sure don't look the happiest from the looks of the news and their world rankings on things like education, healthcare, or public transportation, among other things.

 

[mozfonky]

That's the "tolerant" left for you. Crying and playing victim while they punch you.

On the other hand, we had some BLM'rs try to go to our Seattle police chief's house to protest, she lives in a rural community, those people don't play, they came out with guns and made these dummies do the "hands up don't shoot" routine. You're right about the effete and the more upper class doing shit like this, whenever i see black kids doing this type of shit, it's never the brothers off the block, the kind who really have had some hard times, it's these asshole college kids with big hair and affectations, they don't even sound black, they sound just like bratty white kids. How can they really be taken seriously?

 

[mozfonky]

What metrics are you using to measure success?
Americans say this a lot as if the rest of the world is a shithole. Americans sure don't look the happiest from the looks of the news and their world rankings on things like education, healthcare, or public transportation, among other things.

you forgot all the drug use, the medical use, the illegal use, the alcohol use, the use of food as a drug and cigarettes. We lead the world in that, so we can't be all that happy if we have to stay high.

How functional we are depends on who you listen to. Victor Davis Hanson actually says that america is very productive and our people work hard. that sure isn't my experience. My experience is like a lot of other people's America imports cheap labor to do the real work and suckers these immigrants from third world countries with the promise of nice cars and buying a house, then works the fuck out of them. I saw a netflix docu on a chinese company trying to experiment with a plant in america, it was a mess, Americans are fat, whiny, lazy and disillusioned. Victor Davis Hanson has plenty of ideas and is sharp but i can't help thinking he sees what he wants to see. No excuse for that when you have that sort of intellect.

 

[So Fresh]

heh... neither...I'd rather go back to being a hunter-gatherer - wild? you bet but caged wild animals usually don’t breed and get depressed and sometimes can't eat no matter how well treated in the cage. I can't think of much more caging to human spirit than being a corporate cog. I worked for the state - not much better esp with group think wokism/equity taking over but you couldnt fire me for being myself.

(was really hard like drugs found in desk or something)

Yeah that’s also one way to look at. I myself wouldn’t necessarily wanna go back to the wild, but as much as I dislike the “faces” of the minimalism movement, there is some truth in there. We can do with much less.

But that’s the capitalism/ consumerism trap right. They make us think we all need that shit so we keep buying.

 

[So Fresh]

you forgot all the drug use, the medical use, the illegal use, the alcohol use, the use of food as a drug and cigarettes. We lead the world in that, so we can't be all that happy if we have to stay high.

How functional we are depends on who you listen to. Victor Davis Hanson actually says that america is very productive and our people work hard. that sure isn't my experience. My experience is like a lot of other people's America imports cheap labor to do the real work and suckers these immigrants from third world countries with the promise of nice cars and buying a house, then works the fuck out of them. I saw a netflix docu on a chinese company trying to experiment with a plant in america, it was a mess, Americans are fat, whiny, lazy and disillusioned. Victor Davis Hanson has plenty of ideas and is sharp but i can't help thinking he sees what he wants to see. No excuse for that when you have that sort of intellect.

The illusion of the American Dream. The best marketing trick in modern history.

 

[mozfonky]

The illusion of the American Dream. The best marketing trick in modern history.

I
it definitely works. My east indian buddy came here 14 years ago without any ideas of wanting anything. I taught him to drive, and since then, he's bought about 6 new cars over the years, just bought a house and now wants to get a second one because this house "is too old". The materialistic temptation we offer works. I don't say a whole lot to him about it because he doesn't listen anyways, I do wish he and other people would not burden me with their stresses and wants though. I help a lot (advice, moves, driving lessons, legal advice) and it never seems to be enough, just like materialism.

 

[mozfonky]

heh... neither...I'd rather go back to being a hunter-gatherer - wild? you bet but caged wild animals usually don’t breed and get depressed and sometimes can't eat no matter how well treated in the cage. I can't think of much more caging to human spirit than being a corporate cog. I worked for the state - not much better esp with group think wokism/equity taking over but you couldnt fire me for being myself.

(was really hard like drugs found in desk or something)

if i could do the hunter gatherer thing i would, I don't care for this lifestyle we have.

 

[12ga.]

Yeah that’s also one way to look at. I myself wouldn’t necessarily wanna go back to the wild, but as much as I dislike the “faces” of the minimalism movement, there is some truth in there. We can do with much less.

But that’s the capitalism/ consumerism trap right. They make us think we all need that shit so we keep buying.

There's a good ebook on civilization is killing us by a psychiatrist.

https://stressrus.wordpress.com/

Population density stress is killing us NOW through all of our “diseases of civilization” (heart attack and stroke, cancers, lung diseases, kidney diseases, “the diseases of despair” (addiction, overdose, suicide, gun violence), obesity and diabetes, infertility, accidents, wars, civil unrest, etc.), none of which are to be found in contemporary traditional living Hunter-Gatherer clans/bands. In the long history of crowded animal research over the past 70 years, the population curves of animals confined to limited spaces have always followed the same trajectories: they rise exponentially until they level out and plateau, only to soon thereafter cease all successful reproduction.
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[12ga.]

if i could do the hunter gatherer thing i would, I don't care for this lifestyle we have.

You can hybrid lifestyle it that's about it. Get out in nature as much as possible. I spend ~8 hours a day outdoors. But had to pay my dues in a major metro for 30 years.

 

[mozfonky]

You can hybrid lifestyle it that's about it. Get out in nature as much as possible.

i really need to but keep putting it off.

 

[mozfonky]

There's a good ebook on civilization is killing us by a psychiatrist.

https://stressrus.wordpress.com/

Population density stress is killing us NOW through all of our “diseases of civilization” (heart attack and stroke, cancers, lung diseases, kidney diseases, “the diseases of despair” (addiction, overdose, suicide, gun violence), obesity and diabetes, infertility, accidents, wars, civil unrest, etc.), none of which are to be found in contemporary traditional living Hunter-Gatherer clans/bands. In the long history of crowded animal research over the past 70 years, the population curves of animals confined to limited spaces have always followed the same trajectories: they rise exponentially until they level out and plateau, only to soon thereafter cease all successful reproduction.
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i believe it and the only reason it doesn't get talked about a lot more is because it works against everything we're expected to do. It's crazy how it's so obvious that this way of living makes us so miserable yet most people can't see it. almost cultlike.

 

[12ga.]

i believe it and the only reason it doesn't get talked about a lot more is because it works against everything we're expected to do. It's crazy how it's so obvious that this way of living makes us so miserable yet most people can't see it. almost cultlike.

Well we can only support ~500,000,000 on this hunter gatherer style not 8 billion...so what's the point in talking about it? Then let's say we culled 7.5 billion in a pandemic or something. Knowledge not lost. Some asshole will bring over a machine gun and wipe our your tribe and all the other tribes now have to get machine guns. Before you know it you're right back to where we are. No going back. Best you can do is visit. Theres plenty of talk on that. Fishing and hunting channels even.

 

[mozfonky]

Well we can only support ~500,000,000 on this hunter gatherer style not 8 billion...so what's the point in talking about it? Then let's say we culled 7.5 billion in a pandemic or something. Knowledge not lost. Some asshole will bring over a machine gun and wipe our your tribe and all the other tribes now have to get machine guns. Before you know it you're right back to where we are. No going back. Best you can do is visit. Theres plenty of talk on that. Fishing and hunting channels even.

i've heard that number, but don't know if it's accurate or not. agriculture could probably help us do about the same thing although that was probably the first big step to getting us all to form permanent environments.

 

[SalvadorCollie]

They see the worst aspect of capitalism. It exists throughout, but higher density naturally reflects their perspective.

Capitalism seems to be the answer universally. I know more than a dozen people who came from menial jobs to become engineers, line leads, managers/corporate applicants.

your effort is definitive, while it’s just as lucky to have that reciprocated the opposite is true if you don’t push through. Capitalism rewards perseverance, that’s probably why it’s so unpopular.

I believe not only effort, but success should define who excels. I can’t play the politics, I have a hard time using people and I’m not willing to step on others for something that means dog shit.

the flaw of capitalism is a dream come true in socialism, and we’re seeing reality through a bias lens. There’s a lot of suffering in the world, and I’d imagine deaths due to starvation are about as low as you can get in America. Often the poorest amongst us waddle..

 

[So Fresh]

I
it definitely works. My east indian buddy came here 14 years ago without any ideas of wanting anything. I taught him to drive, and since then, he's bought about 6 new cars over the years, just bought a house and now wants to get a second one because this house "is too old". The materialistic temptation we offer works. I don't say a whole lot to him about it because he doesn't listen anyways, I do wish he and other people would not burden me with their stresses and wants though. I help a lot (advice, moves, driving lessons, legal advice) and it never seems to be enough, just like materialism.

You have an interesting documentary about this (albeit a little conspiracy like) it’s called Hyper Normalization. Interesting stuff.