Women's division ruining the UFC..

[DariusTheGreat]

Yeah, UFC is so PC! Makes sense.

They do it for the money dummies.

Ronda sold big, so they brought the women in.

bro i can care less i just hate watching shitty fights which most wmma fights are

 

[LetThemBleed]

Because there is a market for it.
Weili Zhang has more social media followers than Conor McGregor.

I'll bet that Zhang won't ever do the PPV numbers McGregor's done. Doesn't Paige Van Zant have a decent number of followers? She's not going to be moving the PPV needle too much. I doubt Zhang will either.

 

[LetThemBleed]

Before Invicta FC went to UFC Fight Pass, the PPV's were is such high demand that the streaming service crashed again and again. It nearly broke Invicta FC to have to keep refunding the money.

Pity then those numbers haven't for the large part, with the exception of Ronda, come across to the UFC. Do a women's only PPV now, stack all the female titles on it. Doubt it would do 500k. Nunes crushed the last relatively decent WMMA draw.

 

[BeardotheWeirdo]

bro i can care less i just hate watching shitty fights which most wmma fights are

Fair enough.

I like sloppy fights. Been watching since the NHB days, as long as they both go for it, I can forgive a lack of skill.

When two sloppy WMMA fighters point-fight, then it's terrible, I agree.

 

[LetThemBleed]

Did u see the ass on the 22 year old Bellator girl this weekend? Holy shit UFC needs many of her instead of the usual dog show.

I watch WMMA for the ass bouncing

There's this thing called porn you may want to check out. I hear "ass bouncing" may be covered.

 

[Shrewms]

Your really think you're more likely to be looked down upon for being a white male, than an illegal tranny Mexican immigrant. in America? Seriously?

People don't like you because you're an ignorant dick, not because you're a white male.

Did you notice who won the President is? He's far from liberal. Americans are still sexist racist wall-builders for the most part, so you can stop acting oppressed. No one's buying it.

Hillary (regardless of your opinion of her) is much much more qualified to lead a country than a real-estate mogul/tv personality... yet she lost, because she's a woman. That is 100% proof that men have more power than women, still. If Hilary was a tranny Mexican she never would've even got the chance to run, no matter how qualified she is.

Your assertions are nonsense, turn off your tv and radio, please.

Lol'd way too hard at this. Hillary didn't lose because she is a woman, she lost because she got exposed at the last minute and her association to some really dirty shit.

 

[LetThemBleed]

I find it odd, the prevailing opinion here is very much anti-WMMA, yet the MMA fans I know personally are all fine with women’s fights. It’s almost as if the population of an online forum doesn’t accurately represent the population as a whole.

Or conversely it's a reflection on who you choose to associate with.

 

[LetThemBleed]

Your really think you're more likely to be looked down upon for being a white male, than an illegal tranny Mexican immigrant. in America? Seriously?

People don't like you because you're an ignorant dick, not because you're a white male.

Did you notice who won the President is? He's far from liberal. Americans are still sexist racist wall-builders for the most part, so you can stop acting oppressed. No one's buying it.

Hillary (regardless of your opinion of her) is much much more qualified to lead a country than a real-estate mogul/tv personality... yet she lost, because she's a woman. That is 100% proof that men have more power than women, still. If Hilary was a tranny Mexican she never would've even got the chance to run, no matter how qualified she is.

Your assertions are nonsense, turn off your tv and radio, please.

Come on man you make a few valid points but to suggest the overall reason why Hilary lost was because she was a woman is the epitome of a lazy layman's analysis. Next tell us why Donald Trumps victory represented a white backlash against Obama's legacy.

 

[BeardotheWeirdo]

Lol'd way too hard at this. Hillary didn't lose because she is a woman, she lost because she got exposed at the last minute and her association to some really dirty shit.

Come on man you make a few valid points but to suggest the overall reason why Hilary lost was because she was a woman is the epitome of a lazy layman's analysis. Next tell us why Donald Trumps victory represented a white backlash against Obama's legacy.

Nope, she lost because record numbers of non-voting sexists backed Trump.

Trump was exposed talking about 'grabbing people by the pussy, because he's a star, and they allow him to'. Among other things

Trump isn't qualified to run the country. The people that run the country say so. How is that not worse than some minor shady shit... which every politician ever is guilty of?

 

[NorrisB]

The whining that shertards do about wmma is legendary.



Nobody is forcing you goofs to watch it lol. Stop crying.

At the very least it needs to be more restricted, some of the womens fights are good like the title fights but the lower ranked ones are terrible.

 

[dissectingaorticaneurysm]

Because there is a market for it.
Weili Zhang has more social media followers than Conor McGregor.

yes, on China's closed social media habitat. There are female basketball players and divers with a bigger following than her in China so that doesnt mean shit. Don't try and pretend anyone takes WMMA seriously except fetishists like you.

 

[Yagadot]

I like WMMA. Although I don’t think Dana is doing it any favours by placing certain fights so high up on cards.

People seem to think doing this is some type of bowing to equality or feminist conspiracy. He’s doing it because it’s dirt cheap and fill ups time on a fight card. Look at that fight on the Aussie card. The American is on a TUF contract and how much would the Aussie girl have been paid?

 

[DaviVasco]

As long as they don't start a transgender division, I am content.

It is actually better having a transgender division so men can't fight women.

 

[Better Every Day]

Televised WMMA should be top 3 ranked contenders only and championship fights should be the feature prelim before the main card.

I think wmma fights should be held in invicta, except for title fights. Only the best fighter in each division/the top contender get a spot in the ufc. Then it wouldnt feel forced and we wouldnt miss the good wmma fights.

You would miss out on lots of good WMMA fights that way.

To mention just a few notable WMMA fights where neither fighter were high ranked fighters...
Irene Aldana vs. Lucie Pudilova was a FOTN.
Andrea Lee vs. Veronica Macedo was a FOTN.
Leslie Smith vs. Irene Aldana was a FOTN.
Lauren Murphy vs. Kelly Faszholz was a FOTN
Seo Hee Ham vs. Cortney Casey was a FOTN.
Joanne Calderwood vs. Cortney Casey was a FOTN.
Jessica Penne vs. Randa Markos was a FOTN.
Paige VanZant vs. Kailin Curran was a FOTN.

And the above list isn't even going into those fights that were exciting but not awarded FOTN.

Similarly with Performance of the Night awards, we have had some of them awarded to female fighters that were not highly ranked like...
Montana De La Rosa
Aspen Ladd
Michelle Waterson
Paige VanZant
Alex Chambers
Maryna Moroz

And the above list isn't even going into those performances that were exciting and impressive but not awarded POTN. For example, I thought Weili Zhang's performance against Jessica Aguilar deserved a POTN, but it didn't get one.

 

[FoxxMango]

You would miss out on lots of good WMMA fights that way.

To mention just a few notable WMMA fights where neither fighter were high ranked fighters...
Irene Aldana vs. Lucie Pudilova was a FOTN.
Andrea Lee vs. Veronica Macedo was a FOTN.
Leslie Smith vs. Irene Aldana was a FOTN.
Lauren Murphy vs. Kelly Faszholz was a FOTN
Seo Hee Ham vs. Cortney Casey was a FOTN.
Joanne Calderwood vs. Cortney Casey was a FOTN.
Jessica Penne vs. Randa Markos was a FOTN.
Paige VanZant vs. Kailin Curran was a FOTN.

And the above list isn't even going into those fights that were exciting but not awarded FOTN.

Similarly with Performance of the Night awards, we have had some of them awarded to female fighters that were not highly ranked like...
Montana De La Rosa
Aspen Ladd
Michelle Waterson
Paige VanZant
Alex Chambers
Maryna Moroz

And the above list isn't even going into those performances that were exciting and impressive but not awarded POTN. For example, I thought Weili Zhang's performance against Jessica Aguilar deserved a POTN, but it didn't get one.

I dont remember any of those fights. The wmma fights I DO remember are nunes vs cyborg, rose vs joanna, rousey vs tate, joanna vs claudia, etc.... Aka the title fights.

 

[Better Every Day]

I'll bet that Zhang won't ever do the PPV numbers McGregor's done. Doesn't Paige Van Zant have a decent number of followers? She's not going to be moving the PPV needle too much. I doubt Zhang will either.

That may depend on how the UFC's outreach to China goes. There's a reason why the UFC is building a Performance Institute in China that is 3 times larger than the one in Las Vegas. China is a huge money-making opportunity. If Weili Zhang gains the UFC strawweight belt (or perhaps even just fights for it), not only would that likely attract a huge foreign Chinese market, but it might bring a lot of American Chinese into the UFC audience (not to mention practitioners--of all nationalities--of Chinese "Kung Fu" worldwide).

 

[Better Every Day]

I dont remember any of those fights. The wmma fights I DO remember are nunes vs cyborg, rose vs joanna, rousey vs tate, joanna vs claudia, etc.... Aka the title fights.

Maybe you missed these other good fights by avoiding watching them?

 

[Paolo Delutis]

There isn't one real fighter, current or retired, legit fight analyst and a true martial artist that thinks this fight even belongs on the same card as the three fights we had before this and after this.(Calvillo/Sanchez) The women's division is there because of women and society reasons and that is it. Its a shame what has been done to the UFC because of the women's division. When i'm trying to explain to people that its like watching a NFL sunday and one of the games is a women's game. It just doesn't make sense.

Ill never umderstand this beef with WMMA,

All i hear is its not as good as mens so it shouldnt be there

Or

Women shouldnt be hitting or getting hit by other women , they should home cleaning or some next shit..

And im like, how the fuck do you expect to be the same as mens when one, mens MMA is like 25 years and womens is under 10 years old and two who really cares if two people we dont really know personally want to sign contracts to fight each other fuck it let em

I just dont get it, imma fight fan thru and thru and to me a fights a fight ..you never know what's going to happen ...

 

[FoxxMango]

Maybe you missed these other good fights by avoiding watching them?

No, I definitely watched them. I just dont remember them. Thats the thing with wmma. Its like wnba. I just dont care. I see you're AV and message so I can tell you're a big WMMA fan, and I'm glad for ya. But I personally find it tiresome aside from the best of the division.

 

[LetThemBleed]

Nope, she lost because record numbers of non-voting sexists backed Trump.

Trump was exposed talking about 'grabbing people by the pussy, because he's a star, and they allow him to'. Among other things

Trump isn't qualified to run the country. The people that run the country say so. How is that not worse than some minor shady shit... which every politician ever is guilty of?

Again that's incredibly lazy analysis. The result had nothing to do with Clinton support of NAFTA and her issues in the rust belt states, nothing to do with Comey, nothing to do with the damning comparison between a charismatic African American leader who got record numbers out to vote and an automaton whose every gesture was field tested with special interest groups in mind. But I assume you're an American so you have a right to be triggered and all. Don't worry there's likely going to be a course correction at the next election. Should that happen you can happily crawl back into your comfortably feathered safe space.