Would GSP have been able to hold Anderson down for 5 rounds?

[Intellidamus]

Again, you talk about getting away with cheating, but in GSP or DCs case you refuse to call it cheating. That is only nuthuggery, And make you sound silly. Just stop being so biased

Is the difference so hard to grasp? GSP’s trainer was rubbing his chest & back as part of a breathing technique. Grease does not benefit someone who’s game plan revolves around grappling. It would have hindered his game just as much as BJ’s. Grease benefits a striker trying to prevent a grappler taking him down. Andy took a bath in it just before the second Chael fight. He applied it to himself. He looked like he had just been pulled out of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.

 

[Intellidamus]

They were going to force GSP to sign the contract?

Where do you come up with this shit?

 

[Mamou]

Where do you come up with this shit?

You said "they were going to make the fight after the Maia fight"

Even if they still went through with it and tried to make the fight, were they going to force GSP to sign the contract? Because he had plenty of opportunities to make the fight happen and he did not. He wanted nothing to do with Anderson and everyone except you knows it.

 

[Intellidamus]

You said "they were going to make the fight after the Maia fight"

Even if they still went through with it and tried to make the fight, were they going to force GSP to sign the contract? Because he had plenty of opportunities to make the fight happen and he did not. He wanted nothing to do with Anderson and everyone except you knows it.

You obviously lack reading & comprehension skills. I tagged you in an article sighting numerous quotes that GSP was willing to fight Andy. Andy ruined everything with his crackhead clown impersonation against Maia. Get some sleep & read it again later if you can’t grasp that. There’s a video stating it in this thread. Start at 3:20.

 

[Intellidamus]

You said "they were going to make the fight after the Maia fight"

Even if they still went through with it and tried to make the fight, were they going to force GSP to sign the contract? Because he had plenty of opportunities to make the fight happen and he did not. He wanted nothing to do with Anderson and everyone except you knows it.

Found video for you.
You’re eventually going to have to figure things out on your own.

 

[Intellidamus]

GSP would've jumped at this opportunity if he felt confident enough. Go look at all his interviews from day 1 when fans and Dana White were plugging for this fight. You could tell GSP never wanted a part in this whole thing and I don't blame him. Anderson Silva was on fire and extremely dangerous at the top.

Chael and GSP are different styles . Chael is a chain wrestler with a great chin who does minimal setups to get take downs. Anderson Silva tagged him a bunch of times in their first fight but Chael was able to power through the damage and continue to take him down. GSP would never fight this way simply because he's extremely methodical with his steps up to get those take downs and more importantly he isn't willing to take the same damage Chael incurs to get them.

You seem like a nice young man who could use some guidance. There’s nothing wrong with being misinformed, you just need some facts to help you make better posting decisions in the future. That’s why myself & a few other posters are here to help you. Here’s a nice read for you.
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/platfor...-spider-anderson-silva-lost-superfight-quotes

 

[L0ki]

Huh? A guy that used to have one of the very best tdd % in mma, And one of the best bottom games in mma, now suddenly struggle with Wrestlers?

Even a 40 lb heavier DC could do nothing but lnp vs an old, broken Anderson.

DC beat the Hel out of Anderson. Scored it 30-26.

Anderson's TDD wasn't that good.

Against the Chris Weiner, Shael, Hendo, and DC, he was able to get taken down and controlled.

It's been the worse style match up for him, prime or not.

 

[Intellidamus]

Anderson's TDD wasn't that good.

Against the Chris Weiner, Shael, Hendo, and DC, he was able to get taken down and controlled.

It's been the worse style match up for him, prime or not.

This is wrong wrong wrong!
Many posters have informed me that Andy has godlike tdd. He even let Chael maul him & pound on his head & body for 23 minutes just so he could submit him at the last minute. Master game plan!

 

[Perrichet]

Found video for you.
You’re eventually going to have to figure things out on your own.

 

[Sp@cePeanut]

GSP had elite TD's, of course he could have won a fight with Andy. Would he have? Beats me and it doesn't matter.

 

[AndersonSilva23]

Anderson would’ve gotten taken down early for sure but over a five round fight it’s a nightmare matchup for GSP. GSP bleeds easy and would’ve gotten sliced and diced from Silva’s guard. Eventually Silva would catch GSP in the Matrix and dummy him with his striking. People forget how incredible Silva was in his prime, there are a few fighters that may have better resumes and overall careers, but prime vs prime there was no one better than Anderson Silva. He made great fighters (Hendo, Belfort, etc.) look like amateurs, he literally murdered opponents striking. GSP would lose 9 times out of 10 in devastating fashion.

 

[Intellidamus]

Eventually Silva would catch GSP in the Matrix and dummy him with his striking.

You don’t even believe that.
No way the fighter with the best fight IQ in history falls into that scenario.
Silva’s tdd is way too suspect to even keep the fight standing long enough to do that.

 

[TheAmericanGazelle]

Silva wasn't able to matrix the two guys who could wrestle and shoot from a distance with timing/quickness/skill (Sonnen and Weidman).

I don't really think him matrixing against someone like Forrest or even Okami is particularly relevant in terms of thinking about how a fight with GSP would go.

That doesn't mean he couldn't win or even be a favorite to win. It's just that the odds of him winning in that particular way are not especially high. But he did have an underrated guard and one-strike finishing ability...it's interesting to think about.

 

[Maroli]

Anyone who moderately followed the sport knew GSP wanted no part of that fight. In an interview he was asked about fighting Anderson and was so thrown off that he stuttered absolutely incoherent gibberish for three seconds straight before finally spitting out "like it... like.. right now like... like right now it makes sense..."

There's no shame in not wanting that fight.

Totally, I'm sure that interview was the FIRST TIME he was ever asked or thought about fighting Anderson, that's why he was so thrown off. It wasn't because English is his second language, he's normally eloquent enough to act at the Royal Shakespeare.

 

[AndersonSilva23]

No level of IQ will stop punches, knees, elbows and other insane strikes that you can’t see coming. If GSP can get tagged multiple times by subpar strikers like Hendricks, Condit, Serra etc. The greatest striker of all time would connect at will, GSP would be dumbfounded and overwhelmed by the reflexes, precision, speed and variety of Silva’s lethal striking.

 

[thobra]

And? Does that change the fact Anderson spent the whole of the first round on his back?

Again, claiming Anderson won with much effort is false and simply pure fanboyism.



Lol at you avoiding the question but keep on bringing up other fighters. We are talking about Anderson cheating in the 2nd Sonnen. Go watch it as it’s clear you have not even seen it

And then he adjusted And won. Winning the first round doesn’t mean much. You know this.

You keep bringing up the cheating, but as you know, it only makes you sound silly And biased when you apply it to guys you don’t Like. That is often a problem with your posts. They Are one sided And biased. Good night.

 

[Perrichet]

And then he adjusted And won. Winning the first round doesn’t mean much. You know this.

It means more than what you claimed.

You keep bringing up the cheating, but as you know, it only makes you sound silly And biased when you apply it to guys you don’t Like. That is often a problem with your posts. They Are one sided And biased. Good night.

Still avoiding the question

 

[thobra]

Is the difference so hard to grasp? GSP’s trainer was rubbing his chest & back as part of a breathing technique. Grease does not benefit someone who’s game plan revolves around grappling. It would have hindered his game just as much as BJ’s. Grease benefits a striker trying to prevent a grappler taking him down. Andy took a bath in it just before the second Chael fight. He applied it to himself. He looked like he had just been pulled out of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.

so it is ok to do vaseline if you are a grappler (even vs a bjj ace), but not if you are a striker?

wow...This discussion has reached a new level...

 

[Intellidamus]

No level of IQ will stop punches, knees, elbows and other insane strikes that you can’t see coming. If GSP can get tagged multiple times by subpar strikers like Hendricks, Condit, Serra etc. The greatest striker of all time would connect at will, GSP would be dumbfounded and overwhelmed by the reflexes, precision, speed and variety of Silva’s lethal striking.

Condit was dominated & landed an off balance Hail Mary kick, Serra landed in a very short fight 12 years ago. Was dominated in rematch. Yes, Hendricks was a war. Silva matrixing a couple of B level strikers isn’t the same as doing it against the best wrestler in mma. Where was the matrix against Weidman & Chael?

 

[Intellidamus]

so it is ok to do vaseline if you are a grappler (even vs a bjj ace), but not if you are a striker?

wow...This discussion has reached a new level...

Where did I say it was ok? I’m saying nothing was done with the purpose of gaining an advantage. GSP is a wrestler. He would be negating his own skills. Andy blatantly bathed in it prior to Sonnen 2. He feared the takedown.