Jon Jones before/after steroids... or not?

20falarVerdades said:
You think you get 3d delts and traps like these by doing little to no strength training(as GSP admitted) and gymnastics? Sorry, that's a dead giveaway, his traps clearly are of an enhanced user

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GSP did a lot of weights when he was younger and gymnastics and olympic powerllifting later
 
20falarVerdades said:
GSP fans probably believe Arnold Schwarznegger was clean because he never tested positive and there is no such thing as "eye test"
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Arnold was clean. He was the first athlete to use Mike O'trens duck eggs supplement.

Thats why he got big and ripped.
 
Strijfy said:
Lets face it, you have no fucking idea whst youre talking about. Half of you have never trained in your life and wouldnt have a friggin clue what can be obtained naturally. Traps are so damn easy to develop " ooh 3d traps, must be on the juice.
Unless you are a top trainer, shut the fuck up and stop posting horseshit
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Wrong

Sage's Northcutt is a physique that may be achievable natty for a life long lifter with elite genetics. Look how smaller his delts and traps look compared to GSPs. And Sage is a lifelong natural bodybuilder.

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20falarVerdades said:
I don't get it, do you believe he was clean ? Steroids were well widespread in his era
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I find it highly unlikely, but his physique is ironically more consistent with being clean than GSP's in my humble opinion:

Here's what Nubret says himself.

I started to train in Feb. 1958. Back then we did not hear about steroids in Guadeloupe. In fact, I didn't even have magazines to look at for training advice or know about protein powders. I just ate Caribbean food. I had my first international contest in Montreal, Canada.

In September of 1960, 2 1/2 years after I won my first international contest, there was an IFBB contest. I competed with a 20-inch arm without any supplements. So from that I know that it is possible to have a fantastic physique naturally.
 
jon jones wrestling has gone to complete shit since that toe injury againist chael sonnen. Dude struggled to take down osp

jon jones is not a striker, he uses his wrestling to set up everything else. Once the threat of the takedown is not there and you force him to become a striker he becomes extremely average or a much limted fighter. The scouting report on jones is out now, his takedowns arent a sure thing anymore. Force him to stand and bang
 
kflo said:
No. Based on jones saying it when he posted those pics.
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So it's impossible that he was on and off steroids? You actually think his natural physique is argument AGAINST him using steroids?
 
You don’t need to rely on the eye test. He’s popped hot multiple times
 
spacetime said:
So it's impossible that he was on and off steroids? You actually think his natural physique is argument AGAINST him using steroids?
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What are you talking about? Where did I say any of that?

My point is he didn’t magically just start to become in shape for your “after” pic. He’s looked the same for most of his fighting career.
 
kflo said:
What are you talking about? Where did I say any of that?

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the natural physique shows up again when you're off everything, thus it's perfectly possible that your pictures are of Jones with steroids taken after my before-picture, which is during the time when he was suspended/inactive.
 
spacetime said:
the natural physique shows up again when you're off everything, thus it's perfectly possible that your pictures are of Jones with steroids taken after my before-picture, which is during the time when he was suspended/inactive.
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The ufc 87 pic was 5 years before your “before” pic.

And yes, when you’re less active and lifting less you will not look as good as when you are lifting heavy. He said he was power lifting 4 days a week for 7 months for your “after” pic. Of course he’s going to look bigger.

None of the pics are proof of anything.
 
All the usual 3 took steroids, GSP was lucky to quit UFC before USADA, still Jones is being able to dodge the bullet by an atom every time around.

That's basically what happens when you group PEDs with good fighter that never needed PEDs but to fight other guys with it.
 
kflo said:
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The ufc 87 pic was 5 years before your “before” pic.

And yes, when you’re less active and lifting less you will not look as good as when you are lifting heavy. He said he was power lifting 4 days a week for 7 months for your “after” pic. Of course he’s going to look bigger.

None of the pics are proof of anything.
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Not as good? His natural physique off season/suspended was terrible. 0/10.
 
Buff said:
Vitor has been roiding since the mid 90s... Nobody knows what he looked like before steroids.

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Francis Ngannou, different story... Here he is 20 years ago when he was about 25 years old.

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"Here he is 20 years ago when he was about 25 years old." Made me spit my cereal, thanks bud.
 
So, the eye test is now valid?

What happened to the "A-level athleticism" look-based standards that reigned here?

Jones is as clean as the vast majority of his colleagues and fellow champs. Stop the crying. He beat your fav and is greater than your silly favs.
 
empsim said:
Every Jones haters favorite pic.

The thing is, the left photo is from when he was already champ and easily smashing all of sherdogs favorite fighters.
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You mean busted up old Pride and UFC champs from yesteryear....
 
20falarVerdades said:
You think you get 3d delts and traps like these by doing little to no strength training(as GSP admitted) and gymnastics? Sorry, that's a dead giveaway, his traps clearly are of an enhanced user

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Sorry your Gene's are shit and he makes you feel insecure
 
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