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The fact you are framing this as a matter of "servility" betrays that not only have you lost your sense of proportion, but have also willfully adopted a position of rebellion-- however meek. It doesn't matter if he didn't inform the church. It doesn't matter what a crowd of people is doing. This is the United States of America, and the President will move freely wherever he pleases in its public domain. He is the chief executive of the country.

You may hate this President, but he bears the authority of the Office.

You're equating the President's rights with that of a monarch, and openly so. You're fine with him violently dispersing peaceful protesters in order to do a pointless act on a property he does not own, and did not inform the owners of.

He doesn't get to just walk into people's houses and fuck their wives, you know this, right? He doesn't own the street, and it's the clear sign of some crackpot dictator like Erdogan to fuck up their citizens for a photo op.

"Hey, it might be your yard, but under that yard? city property. That city property is pursuant to US Federal Law and regulations, so it's actually quite legal if the president puts a statue of himself on your lawn."
 
Wow.

So the president should gas protesters so that he can take a needless photo op? What the fuck is wrong with you?
Should have Obama given Iran millions of dollars? Could Obama have punked them for our soldiers and set a precedent that America is not to be fucked with? People who use questions tend to have nothing to add or subtract to whatever they are replying to on this forum. You forget about statewide curfews or do you not follow the law or something?
 
What national security concern required the President doing a photo op at a church he wasn't invited to?
He's just trying to say Trump is more of a national asset then this entire forum but you all like to think so highly of yourselves
 
Should have Obama given Iran millions of dollars? Could Obama have punked them for our soldiers and set a precedent that America is not to be fucked with? People who use questions tend to have nothing to add or subtract to whatever they are replying to on this forum. You forget about statewide curfews or do you not follow the law or something?

Obama returning frozen funds to a country per a nuclear agreement is not at all the same as Trump using police violence against peaceful protesters in order to show his toughness and do a photo op at a church that did not invite him and was not informed.

He's just trying to say Trump is more of a national asset then this entire forum but you all like to think so highly of yourselves

That's not at all an argument.
 
What national security concern required the President doing a photo op at a church he wasn't invited to?
He needed some exercise man, he's been couped up all day listening to people like you
 
Obama returning frozen funds to a country per a nuclear agreement is not at all the same as Trump using police violence against peaceful protesters in order to show his toughness and do a photo op at a church that did not invite him and was not informed.



That's not at all an argument.
How is it not an argument? Is it because he's a democrat?
 
tell me what happened in the OP or are you just shit posting and have no idea what this thread is about or what I alluded to because that's what I'm getting from you. most of yall got more questions then rebuttals
 
No, but Trump is and what he feels like doing is as well. It's kind of how things work when you're the president
President also deserves criticism and is not above the law. When he abuses the law he needs to be called out and held accountable.
 
President also deserves criticism and is not above the law. When he abuses the law he needs to be called out and held accountable.
so you don't obey the law either by abiding by the curfew? like do you not have a curfew in your city or follow the laws like you want the president to?
 
Where was it ever stated that a president can flashbang people who aren't breaking the law so he can do an impromptu photo op? When did the freedoms of the people mean less than the freedom of the president? That's tyranny, not Bernie fighting for healthcare as a human right.
First, I haven't seen it substantiated anywhere that protesters suffered tear gas, flashbags, rubber bullets, or any of these other riot control measures. That isn't in the video, and I don't find some random tweet a credible source.

Second, you are deliberately misrepresenting the nature of this hypothetical. Trump initiates a Presidential train to move across the street. SS agents would fan out and clear the way. They would first ask people to move. If those people didn't move, they would then issue a lawful order according to their authority for those people to move in the interest of the security of the President. The SS is in charge of his security, and the judges of what is an acceptable distance for standerbys to be to the route he intends to travel.

Imagine if this were Obama. I don't care about hypotheticals about Obama not doing this. Imagine it were him. If Obama wanted to walk this route, he'd walk this route. He is the President. You accede to that authority.
 
First, I haven't seen it substantiated anywhere that protesters suffered tear gas, flashbags, rubber bullets, or any of these other riot control measures. That isn't in the video, and I don't find some random tweet a credible source.

Second, you are deliberately misrepresenting the nature of this hypothetical. Trump initiates a Presidential train to move across the street. SS agents would fan out and clear the way. They would first ask people to move. If those people didn't move, they would then issue a lawful order according to their authority for those people to move in the interest of the security of the President. The SS is in charge of his security, and the judges of what is an acceptable distance for standerbys to be to the route he intends to travel.

Imagine if this were Obama. I don't care about hypotheticals about Obama not doing this. Imagine it were him. If Obama wanted to walk this route, he'd walk this route. He is the President. You accede to that authority.
okay ill stop you there, ill grab the flash bang i took, the rubber bullet i took, and the tear gas canister I took from the san jose protest/riots and post the pics on here if you want. there were literally thousands of these things littering the streets of downtown san jose. i got tons of videos from my buddies who were in different areas where real militant shit was going down.

eh i mis read that but I dont have the ability to delete
 
so you don't obey the law either by abiding by the curfew? like do you not have a curfew in your city or follow the laws like you want the president to?
Curfew is at night. Trump went to that church during the day. What law were the peacefull protesters breaking ?
 
okay ill stop you there, ill grab the flash bang i took, the rubber bullet i took, and the tear gas canister I took from the san jose protest/riots and post the pics on here if you want. there were literally thousands of these things littering the streets of downtown san jose. i got tons of videos from my buddies who were in different areas where real militant shit was going down
I'm not talking about the protests at large. I was referring to those protesters outside the White House. I played the video in the OP and didn't see these things, and I don't believe random Tweets.

I took the time to Google to verify. FOX is reporting that tear gas and rubbet bullets were fired:
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/tear-gas-threats-before-president-trump-visits-church-amid-protests
President Donald Trump had announced he would soon be addressing the nation from the White House Rose Garden, as a 7 p.m. curfew in the city loomed and a mass of law enforcement, including U.S. Secret Service agents, Park Police and National Guardsmen, stood sentry, many dressed in riot gear.

Moments before 6:30 p.m., just when Trump said he would begin his address, the officers suddenly marched forward, directly confronting the protesters as many held up their hands, saying, “Don’t shoot."

Soon, law enforcement officers were aggressively forcing the protesters back, firing tear gas and deploying flash bangs into the crowd to disperse them from the park for seemingly no reason. It was a jarring scene as police in the nation's capital forcefully cleared young men and women gathered legally in a public park on a sunny evening, all of it on live television.

With smoke still wafting and isolated tussles continuing in the crowd, Trump emerged in the Rose Garden for a dramatic split-screen of his own creation.

“I am your president of law and order and an ally of all peaceful protesters," he declared, before demanding that governors across the nation deploy the National Guard "in sufficient numbers that we dominate the streets." And he warned that, if they refused, he would deploy the United States military “and quickly solve the problem for them.”

Rabbi Jack Moline, the president of Interfaith Alliance, slammed the fact that peaceful protesters near the White House were gassed and shot with rubber bullets so Trump could hold his photo op.

“Seeing President Trump stand in front of St. John’s Episcopal Church while holding a Bible in response to calls for racial justice — right after using military force to clear peaceful protesters out of the area — is one of the most flagrant misuses of religion I have ever seen," Moline said in a statement. This only underscores the president’s complete lack of compassion for Black Americans and the lethal consequences of racism.”

And the Right Rev. Mariann Budde, bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington, to which St. John’s belongs, told CNN Monday night that she was “outraged” by the moment, adding that Trump neither prayed during his visit nor acknowledged the country's agony.

“What on earth did we just witness?” she asked, lamenting “the abuse of sacred symbols of people of faith in this country to justify language, rhetoric" and "an approach to this crisis that is antithetical to everything that we stand for.”
That's unfortunate. While it's his right as President to proceed, and I know the message he intended to send, this is missing the mark.
 
The protesters should move when they're told to move.

This the highest authority in the country. What the fuck is wrong with you?

Yeah and yet I am attacked for saying this isnt a minority opinion. This is becoming an increasing % of people in the US. Id say maybe 20% or more think that way. This is not good for long term unity of the country. I support california leaving or something because it is getting to the point were winning an election will mean tyranny over a large portion and % of people who lost by a slim margin.
 
Curfew is at night. Trump went to that church during the day. What law were the peacefull protesters breaking ?
curfew starts in the evening and the sun isn't all the way down until 9 pm where I live and pretty much most of the world is on a 16/8 light cycle rn
 
I'm not talking about the protests at large. I was referring to those protesters outside the White House. I played the video in the OP and didn't see these things, and I don't believe random Tweets.

I took the time to Google to verify. FOX is reporting that tear gas and rubbet bullets were fired:
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/tear-gas-threats-before-president-trump-visits-church-amid-protests

That's unfortunate. While it's his right as President to proceed, and I know the message he intended to send, this is missing the mark.
yeah I can't delete my post
 
You're equating the President's rights with that of a monarch, and openly so. You're fine with him violently dispersing peaceful protesters in order to do a pointless act on a property he does not own, and did not inform the owners of.

He doesn't get to just walk into people's houses and fuck their wives, you know this, right? He doesn't own the street, and it's the clear sign of some crackpot dictator like Erdogan to fuck up their citizens for a photo op.

"Hey, it might be your yard, but under that yard? city property. That city property is pursuant to US Federal Law and regulations, so it's actually quite legal if the president puts a statue of himself on your lawn."
Spare me these hyperbolic strawmen.
 
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