International Pentagon: UFOs are real...and an unknown threat. BIG NEWS

[bobgeese]

Now you're trolling. What do companies do when they have to pivot new buisness models or have to evolve...? They hire the experts in those fields.

Walmart, apple,banks, google etc.. are hiring Blockchain software engineers to get them ready for Blockchain technology and Crypto..

Bobo if you don't know how multiple millions or billion dollar companies work . They put people in place who are experts in their fields, oil companies will do the same.

Honest question, do you even know what fusion energy is?

 

[kenetics]

Honest question, do you even know what fusion energy is?

Yes. I was also in the thread about china fusion lasting more than 12 seconds a month ago. I love science and tech.

 

[mon]

It's all speculation at this stage (unless the technology patents are proven to work and than you need the how he got there). Still the below link estimates the number of suns and it's worth thinking about how could there be no other life.

https://theconversation-com.cdn.amp....com/how-many-stars-are-there-in-space-165370
"The answer is an absolutely astounding number. There are approximately 200 billion trillion stars in the universe. Or, to put it another way, 200 sextillion.

That’s 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000!

The number is so big, it’s hard to imagine. But try this: It’s about 10 times the number of cups of water in all the oceans of Earth."

That many stars like Sol, it's hard to believe the shear arrogance needed to believe that we are the only form of life in the universe, if it can happen once it will happen again. As for the distances/time factor, if the life was machanical what would it matter as it could replace parts of itself or replicate as needed.

 

[Andy Capp]

I get my ufo info from the history channel, but thanks anyways..

You mean the channel full of shows in which people say over and over in dramatic tones, "Some experts believe..." and "Could this be evidence of...?" LOL

 

[LangfordBarrow]

My guy. Thats literally a balloon with the sun reflecting on it. Are you even serious <45>

A balloon? That was obviously the Millennium Falcon...

 

[Jack Handy jr]

@spacegnome @Jack Handy jr
This reminds me of the contribution I was going to add to the Mayberry thread but forgot about.

There is a quote (can't locate it, must heavily paraphrase, maybe one of you will know it though?):

To sip from the cup of knowledge will leave one intoxicated. Only by drinking deeply will one return to sobriety.

Since it's clear many people find current evidence (knowledge) insufficient persuasion for belief, I feel there's an inherent, unconscious aversion from willingness to sip, as they constantly (think they) know there is not enough evidence to quench their mind to satiety.

As time marches on through an unfortunate lack of 100% irrefutable evidence (of whatever the phenomena are, tech or otherworldly or natural or spiritual etc) I expect that population to gain in their generational resolve.


Whoa, was not aware of this! Do you know if there's been any captured on video that's worth checking out?


Thanks for the retelling. Forgive me, but I'm kinda inappropriately laughing about stone-faced, silent, awkward sex that night.


Looks like Conor McGregor's foot...

well...all depends on what resonates as truth or what you believe in my opinion and what i believe and what i believe the Holy Spirit is revealing to me is

1. IMHO These things are not "Aliens"

2. The crazy weather we're experiencing i.e. hurricanes, fires, volcanos, floods are NOT "climate change" but the birthing pains mentioned in Matthew 24 and 2 Timothy.

3. I believe that in our lifetimes so called "aliens" will show up offering a fix to all of our problems similar to the theme of V in the 1980's miniseries.

4. COVID is not done with us.

finally Accept Jesus Christ and get saved guys.

 

[shinkyoku]

A balloon? That was obviously the Millennium Falcon...

YES! Thats it!
And it must be true because that is what I realy, realy want it to be!
I will ignore any evidence, however self evident, that says it is anything but Han Solo´s ship!

 

[evergreenrider]

You mean the channel full of shows in which people say over and over in dramatic tones, "Some experts believe..." and "Could this be evidence of...?" LOL

I trust the experts

 

[shinkyoku]

I trust the experts

 

[dirtypablo]

Maybe , technology has away of getting is out of crap. It's worth not giving up though.

And that's exactly why we're fucked - we've got a hubris regarding this problem where we think technology is going to save us, but that's because we're not grasping the scope of the problem. There isn't some quick fix technology is going to bring about - any solution short of God level AI doing something completely revolutionary is going to take decades before it starts to have a material effect. In the meantime, we'll keep kicking off irreversible feedback loops that make the problem worse.

I'm pretty much convinced human civilization will fall due to climate change related issues within the next 100 years, the only question is how many of those feedback loops are we going to start and is it going to just be the loss of human civilization, or humanity and most of life on earth.

 

[bobgeese]

As for the distances/time factor, if the life was machanical what would it matter as it could replace parts of itself or replicate as needed.

This is not a new concept and in fact one that points towards life being more separated/less common. Check out the concept of a van Neumann probe. With a relatively small Headstart on humanity, they should be able to populate the galaxy in a relatively short period of time. We have seen no evidence of them. That could mean

1 - they could be difficult to detect (which could mean they don't want to be found, and also very unhuman like in the sense that they are not boastful about their presence). That being said if they are as common as predicted, we maybe should have seen some evidence of them in our solar system. Hard to say...

2 - humans are one of the first intelligent life forms in our galaxy

3 - life is sparse and distant

 

[Staph infection]

 

[kenetics]

And that's exactly why we're fucked - we've got a hubris regarding this problem where we think technology is going to save us, but that's because we're not grasping the scope of the problem. There isn't some quick fix technology is going to bring about - any solution short of God level AI doing something completely revolutionary is going to take decades before it starts to have a material effect. In the meantime, we'll keep kicking off irreversible feedback loops that make the problem worse.

I'm pretty much convinced human civilization will fall due to climate change related issues within the next 100 years, the only question is how many of those feedback loops are we going to start and is it going to just be the loss of human civilization, or humanity and most of life on earth.

I think climate change will be reversed with immerging tech. With fusion becoming closer and closer we will have an clean energy source to power the world.

We will also in the future will be able to control the weather and start changing climate to what's needed around the world.

I do agree that humans are a difficult. Hopefully the next generation can rise above .

 

[dirtypablo]

I think climate change will be reversed with immerging tech. With fusion becoming closer and closer we will have an clean energy source to power the world.

We will also in the future will be able to control the weather and start changing climate to what's needed around the world.

I do agree that humans are a difficult. Hopefully the next generation can rise above .

Best case scenario is probably a single commercial fusion reactor up and running in about ten years time - that's best case and very unlikely scenario. More likely is having one ready in like twenty years. (Still a guess, as it's possible we won't crack the puzzle in twenty years either) Give it another twenty years before we see widespread use. In the meantime, we're dumping more and more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere every year, and disrupting systems that once we've screwed up, they can't be fixed.

The idea of us controlling the weather is nonsensical - that's a project with a similar scope as colonizing the moon. We're nowhere near that level of technological progress.

 

[kenetics]

Best case scenario is probably a single commercial fusion reactor up and running in about ten years time - that's best case and very unlikely scenario. More likely is having one ready in like twenty years. (Still a guess, as it's possible we won't crack the puzzle in twenty years either) Give it another twenty years before we see widespread use. In the meantime, we're dumping more and more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere every year, and disrupting systems that once we've screwed up, they can't be fixed.

The idea of us controlling the weather is nonsensical - that's a project with a similar scope as colonizing the moon. We're nowhere near that level of technological progress.

Yeah the weather is probably going to be the hardest to figure out but we can predict the weather pretty accurately . Dubai is able to make it rain on certain conditions by charging clouds. It's small steps but steps regardless.

 

[evergreenrider]

I'll give you ancient aliens, but skinwalker ranch is UFO scripture. Every week, they are so much closer than the last!

 

[shinkyoku]

I'll give you ancient aliens, but skinwalker ranch is UFO scripture. Every week, they are so much closer than the last!

Well if they ever get close enough to actually find something remotely like evidence, instead of BS, let me know.
Its like all those search for lost treasure show. They ALMOST find the treasure in every episode, season after season. But somehow they never actually do. But, ohh it will be different next episode! just you tune in and see!

Realy! "History" channel should change name to "outrageus BS served with a generous helping of crap and suspicious brown sauce channel" -but then so should most american knowledge focused, popular science, (or they were once upon a time anyway) channels.
Faithbased (and funded) "archeology", ancient aliens, reality-show pawnshops and gold prospectors. Ghost hunters and mediums. Any actual serious history program is only included by accident, to fill space before the next piece of utter garbage!

 

[Andy Capp]

I trust the experts

So do I. I just don't trust some guy on TV who says that over and over without ever identifying the so-called experts or why they should be so considered. Just, "Some believe" yadda yadda, usually on the basis of some questionable bit of "evidence" that would never stand up to rigorous scrutiny.

So, when physicists make a prediction, say that gravity waves should exist, and then I hear gravity waves have been proven to exist, I check multiple sources and see if it's a concrete claim or merely a guess based on some observation or other, and it appears to be a reliable claim from my lay point of view. But when I hear "some experts say" that ancient aliens were responsible for the technological accomplishments currently attributed to the Egyptians, a hypothesis that comes directly from someone's imagination and based upon nothing that we can verify to be true, well, I'm not going to be inclined to believe they're experts at anything but saying whatever will get them paid.

Sorry if I was harsh earlier. But those shows are full of speculation and guesswork, plus a dash of stuff that is purely made up. Enjoy it if you find it entertaining, but it isn't science. Watch NOVA or something that deals with real science if you're into that; you'll be doing yourself a favor.

 

[evergreenrider]

Well if they ever get close enough to actually find something remotely like evidence, instead of BS, let me know.
Its like all those search for lost treasure show. They ALMOST find the treasure in every episode, season after season. But somehow they never actually do. But, ohh it will be different next episode! just you tune in and see!

Realy! "History" channel should change name to "outrageus BS served with a generous helping of crap and suspicious brown sauce channel" -but then so should most american knowledge focused, popular science, (or they were once upon a time anyway) channels.
Faithbased (and funded) "archeology", ancient aliens, reality-show pawnshops and gold prospectors. Ghost hunters and mediums. Any actual serious history program is only included by accident, to fill space before the next piece of utter garbage!

Why on earth would they string us along, week by week, and never present any evidence of anything substantial? Because you dont get the genius of the work being done there, thats why! The lead scientist even does like, interviews an shit on YouTube. The official seal of quality.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

This is not a new concept and in fact one that points towards life being more separated/less common. Check out the concept of a van Neumann probe. With a relatively small Headstart on humanity, they should be able to populate the galaxy in a relatively short period of time. We have seen no evidence of them. That could mean

1 - they could be difficult to detect (which could mean they don't want to be found, and also very unhuman like in the sense that they are not boastful about their presence). That being said if they are as common as predicted, we maybe should have seen some evidence of them in our solar system. Hard to say...

2 - humans are one of the first intelligent life forms in our galaxy

3 - life is sparse and distant

Are these probes meant to seed life in other solar systems? Is it possible to store viable cells for such long time frames or would we need to have the technology to create life from basic materials? It also seems there's a real danger of these probes overpopulating the galaxy so it might not be something an advanced civilization would utilize.