*** Sterling vs. Yan Scoring MEGATHREAD ***

[Final Say]

Mma is crazy. Sterling clearly won to me, but it was close. Yan could have won but let it slip. He will be back.

 

[Qays Stetkevich]

What did he do in the entire fight to warrant a win? To take the title home you need to decisively beat the champ. It was his own fault Sterling became the champ and the onus was on him to prove the title belonged to him. He did not deserve to take the title home last night.

Getting DQed for not knowing the rules in the first fight and then putting up a lackluster performance in the subsequent rematch is deserving of the title? Nah... the title is in the right hands.

the tears taste delicious

Not a big Sterling fan, but I had him clearly winning the first tree and dropping the last two, as it looks like A LOT of others thought as well. Not the greatest defense in history, but ESPECIALLY after their last fight, he made Yan look like a kid learning to swim for three rounds. Good on him for improving and changing his approach that drastically.

 

[Stan]

Sterling took 1, 2 and 3 easily. Round 2 should've been a 10-8 round he completely controlled the round attempted multiple submissions and landed some solid GnP without giving up dominant position. Yan was delusional thinking he won that fight all he won was round 4 and 5 and never hurt Sterling within 25 minutes.

 

[chiefwiggum]

He won every moment but the time spent in body triangle.
Aljamain hurt whenever anything landed. Running away. Face planting. Fighting portions of the fight on hands and knees. As when you’re a grappler that’s a really good strategy in fighting.

 

[jeff7b9]

A recurring theme I am seeing is people claiming Aljo "didn't do enough" to win round 1...

While never making any case or explanation to exactly what Petr did to win that round.


Fights like this are really good for picking out who can separate their emotions from reality.

Anyone claiming robbery in either the co-main or the people's main event is just displaying their bias. both fights had close rounds which can easily be swing rounds. Both fights were close, the judges HAVE to score the rounds and the criteria basically forbids draw rounds.

So if you know the basic scoring rules and criteria, there is nothing outside of reasonable expectations.

 

[markys00]

It's because most sherdoggers are dumb and just spew whatever the announcers say. They pretend like they hate them, but copy what they say all the time. Not only were there no 10-8s we should stop thinking of that as an option. It will ruin the sport the more we see of them

 

[achoo42]

I understand the "scoring criteria" that you've posted many times. Unfortunately it's not a great argument as the judges do not follow it as shown in previous fights scored on this very card.

It is the only argument that can used to be assess a correct decision after the fight was over. We assess the judges' decision based on how closely they followed the UFC judging criteria, and in this case, two of the judges gave the correct decision based on the UFC judging criteria.

 

[markys00]

2 was a 10-8, Aljo got some very good GNP in when Yan tried to turn into mount and got stuck underneath.

Lmao. So were rounds 1, 3, 4 and 5

 

[is a]

I dunno. Personally, I scored this fight 1-4-5 for Yan since Yan was the more accurate fighter and displayed somewhat better octagon control in that round. 2 and 3 were definitely Sterling's, but the 4th round was all Yan's.

The 5th round would also be Yan's for sure due to Yan's more accurate striking plus that knee.

I would have thought that Yan would have at least throw out a kick during some of Sterling's more lazier take down attempts though.

 

[markys00]

Aljo landed some nasty GnP in that round, though. It just wasn't sustained across the full control time. Doesn't meant it didn't happen.



I see why you feel this way, but I respectfully disagree. I like the idea of having more 10-8s for dominant displays (within reason) and I think when one fighter is able to take the other down for an entire round and control them in one of the most dominant positions in grappling while threatening an imminent finish to the fight -- imposing their will in one of the most obvious ways possible (short of actually beating their face in) while completely making their opponent's own offense and gameplan a non-factor for a full five minutes that should absolutely be recognized in some way, shape, or form.

My other issue with it is that a 10-9 as it stands covers waaaaaay too much ground in modern MMA scoring. People have a fair understanding of what a 10-7 is, though it's rare. And once people read the new rules and get a feel for it, I think most tend to understand the niche for where 10-8s fit in. But a 10-9 literally covers everything from "really this round was a razor-thin coin flip and no matter how you score it people are going to be angry and call robbery and we're only doing this because we can't do 10-10s" to "Fighter A soundly controlled the Octagon and outstruck/outgrappled Fighter B for five minutes, outclassing him and landing good shots but not in a sufficiently dominant/damaging fashion to warrant a 10-8" plus everything in between.

We need less of that. More 10-9s the better. We don't need to ruin the sport any more

 

[achoo42]

Aljo having your back is safer though. He accomplished nothing with the position except keeping Yan from hurting him.

Uh....what? The only reason why Yan survived these positions at all is because he was frantically fighting the hands nonstop and he has excellent grappling awareness.

Do you idiots accusing Aljo of "stalling" not remember that when Sandhagen got into this position with Aljo, he went to sleep in seconds?

It is an extremely dangerous position to be with and you have to be the among the best in the world (Yan) to survive it against a high level grappler.

 

[achoo42]

God forbid backpacking someone an entire round is a 10-8. If they start scoring it like that nobody will watch MMA in 6 months or less.

The reason why it should be a 10-8 because when someone gets backpacked by a high level jujitsu fighter the fight is usually over. It's literally how Oliveira recently defended his title and it's how Aljo put Sandhagen to sleep.

Casuals acting like backpacking is a stalling tactic, try hitting the mat sometime you fucking donuts.

 

[Pechan]

Maybe Yan should learn how to get out of a fucking triangle? Well deserved win for Aljo, he had the most dominant rounds.

 

[Stan]

Sterling's leg kicks and body shots had him winning that first round. Yan was chasing and did almost nothing except swinging at air in that round.

 

[aldenton]

I don't make the rules, I just report them.
Read the criteria and you'll see why it's scored that way. It's been that way for a few years now.

...except it wasnt scored that way, b.c. of the rules lol...Credibility = 0

 

[Ares Black]

News Flash: TS doesn't know how to score fights.

 

[WhosTheBoss]

Man is this post stupid

Bro you’re a virgin. Stop posting on sherdog and get a fucking job

 

[aldenton]

The guy who ran away outstruck Yan in round 1, then dominated him on the ground in round 2 and 3, scoring enough to win.
That's all there is to say.

Out struck lmao... he has what? 5 more insignificant strikes that were blocked , that he threw while moving backwards?

 

[Safton]

We need less of that. More 10-9s the better. We don't need to ruin the sport any more

No thanks. An overwhelming number of people were saying the exact opposite a few years ago but all of the sudden people (not even judges) score a 10-8 against Yan and it's an issue.

 

[MarleyLynx]

...except it wasnt scored that way, b.c. of the rules lol...Credibility = 0

Just because you say something doesn't make it true. It's in writing. You're going on ad hominems instead of living in the objective reality of things.