News Cédric Doumbé officially cut from the UFC…

[BoxerMaurits]

He missed weight by about 7 pounds... but they found an agreement with his opponent so the fight is on.
He seems to take the Paddy's way of weight management.

7lbs.

What a fck up.

SEVEN POUNDS?!

Dude...

Literally half a weight class lol

Well, Doumbé has a habit for bulking up between fights



For the Americans:
95 kg is +- 210 lbs and 76,6 kg is 169 lbs, that’s about a 40 lbs cut lol

 

[samuelsoncast]

Well, Doumbé has a habit for bulking up between fights

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For the Americans:
95 kg is +- 210 lbs and 76,6 kg is 169 lbs, that’s about a 40 lbs cut lol

Such are the risks. Ho Hum.
I'm a heavyweight and never cared about weight disparity for our class but there is a significant performance difference when cutting weight for fights. Stopping shy of that last 3+kg must make a heck of a difference if your opponent is also depleting himself. I think I'd rather give up a £ forfeit and retain the advantage. Such a fu**ing game.

 

[samuelsoncast]

Here is Doumbe's last fight:

Thank you for the post.

Hard to make much of that. His opponent looked moderately skilled but clearly inexperienced (not fluid).
I'm going to assume that Doumbe was looking for the experience and paced himself.
As @BoxerMaurits showed, such a weight cut. I'd be curious how that would play into his cardio for 5 minute rounds.

He was clearly economic with leg kicks. Only placing them and looking for the punch KO.
I like that after his sprawl, he instantly turned out looking for a sweep or a trip. Often we see kickboxers sprawl then take a big step backwards and give up the space easily. At least he has been working some clinch.

Can't take much more from that. No idea how that would translate to anybody within the UFC.

 

[Yrat]

Fernando Lopez again?

 

[Tweak896]

Doumbe is a badass, ufc needs to bring him in

 

[GUY]

Well the UFC has nothing to do with sanctioning fighters. And maybe they met with this guy’s manager/agent and came to a mutual agreement to let him gain more experience in the minors?

This is the second post tonight mentioning Punk, when the situations are nothing alike. Not just two different American commissions involved here. But a foreign country that just legalized mma. Kinda odd fellas.

I thought the fight was not sanctioned in France because he was fighting another guy with very little experience in MMA, but also without experience in another fighting sport and it was seen as a mismatch given his extensive experience with Kickboxing

 

[Prince Nephilim]

His striking power translates very well to MMA gloves…pitty, he would’ve made for some fun fights in the UFC.

Like Alex, I still think all these kickboxers are one wrestler away from getting grapplefucked

 

[BoxerMaurits]

Thank you for the post.

Hard to make much of that. His opponent looked moderately skilled but clearly inexperienced (not fluid).
I'm going to assume that Doumbe was looking for the experience and paced himself.
As @BoxerMaurits showed, such a weight cut. I'd be curious how that would play into his cardio for 5 minute rounds.

He was clearly economic with leg kicks. Only placing them and looking for the punch KO.
I like that after his sprawl, he instantly turned out looking for a sweep or a trip. Often we see kickboxers sprawl then take a big step backwards and give up the space easily. At least he has been working some clinch.

Can't take much more from that. No idea how that would translate to anybody within the UFC.

Yeah man, to me he looked good in there.
If I was the UFC I would put him on the London card in March.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Yeah man, to me he looked good in there.
If I was the UFC I would put him on the London card in March.

Same. But they'd need to find someone really shit. What about that fucking Blood Diamond kickboxer guy from CKB? Surely, that's the fight to make.

 

[BoxerMaurits]

What about that fucking Blood Diamond kickboxer guy from CKB? Surely, that's the fight to make.

Say less

 

[BoxerMaurits]

I thought the fight was not sanctioned in France because he was fighting another guy with very little experience in MMA, but also without experience in another fighting sport and it was seen as a mismatch given his extensive experience with Kickboxing

Nah, it was exactly the other way around.
The French commission prevented Doumbé from making his UFC debut in France because he was too inexperienced compared to his opponent (according to the French commission atleast).

MMA only became legal in France last year, but they still have some special rules for the sport.
According to their rules, someone <10 pro MMA bouts can’t fight someone with more than 4 MMA bouts than he got himself. When someone has 10 or more fights he can fight whoever he wants to fight. I will explain to you how it works below:


The originally scheduled Cédric Doumbé - Darian Weeks fight is off because Doumbé is an Elite 2 fighter in France (<10 fights, someone with 10 fights or more is an Elite 1 fighter), which means he can only fight against someone with no more than 6 MMA fights, since Doumbé has a MMA-record of 2-0.
Weeks got 7 fights, so the fight is not allowed to take place.

Weeks ‘only’ has 7 pro bouts (his amateur MMA-career not included). Doumbé got 2 MMA fights, but is a very experienced kickboxer.
Imo there should be no issues sanctioning this fight, unfortunately I’m not the French sanctioning body…

I agree that it’s a good rule to prevent guys from padding their records, but there should be exceptions for guys like Doumbé, Pereira, etc. who are very experienced/accomplished in other combat sports.
For example:
5-1 Alex Pereira KO’d 25-3 Sean Strickland inside 3 minutes despite a huge gap in ‘MMA’ experience.


I really don’t know why the UFC didn’t reschedule that fight outside of France or gave Doumbé another opponent. He’s quite a big draw and they potentially could build him up to a contender.

Hopefully the UFC gives Doumbé a fight after his win on December 17 at MMA GrandPrix.
I’m hoping for a fight at UFC London, maybe against someone like Blood Diamond?

 

[capnlarge]

Meanwhile guys from 3 decades ago like AA are still winning while nearly a 100 Dana white pretenders Series guys have entered ufc rosters to add “quality” depth to it.

give it a break DWCS success record is horrible. Compared to TUF it looks even worse tif produced title winners and contenders far earlier

DWCS and TUF are literally the same thing?? Both of these are just ways to market unsigned fighters so that people know who they are when they debut.

 

[mjfan23]

DWCS and TUF are literally the same thing?? Both of these are just ways to market unsigned fighters so that people know who they are when they debut.

Yes they are both marketing shows to build momentum behind your new signees. But, all I am saying is TUF produced more contenders and champions, dwcs has a poor talent output.

 

[HuskySamoan]

Well, Doumbé has a habit for bulking up between fights

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For the Americans:
95 kg is +- 210 lbs and 76,6 kg is 169 lbs, that’s about a 40 lbs cut lol

Looks like he packed on an easy 20lbs of fat and got bulky. He dropped weight over camp because he got out of shape in between. It's not like he cut that 2 weeks out in the sauna or from waterloading.

 

[BoxerMaurits]

Looks like he packed on an easy 20lbs of fat and got bulky. He dropped weight over camp because he got out of shape in between. It's not like he cut that 2 weeks out in the sauna or from waterloading.

Yeah it’s not like with Alex Pereira indeed, more like with Paddy the Baddy lol

 

[spinup]

Hopefully the UFC gives Doumbé a fight after his win on December 17 at MMA GrandPrix.
I’m hoping for a fight at UFC London, maybe against someone like Blood Diamond?

Doumbe is very keen to have his debut in France (possibly Abu Dhabi) so his plans is to get more fight elsewhere while waiting for the next event in France.
I think he is about to announce a fight very soon, either in MMA GP, or in KSW for their 1st card in France.

 

[capnlarge]

Yes they are both marketing shows to build momentum behind your new signees. But, all I am saying is TUF produced more contenders and champions, dwcs has a poor talent output.

Well, at the end of the day, fighters from TUF and DWCS would mostly have been scouted through the same process. Actually, for TUF usually they add a couple shit disturbers to cause drama in the house that have no chance of becoming successful fighters in the UFC, so in theory, DWCS should actually be hitting at a higher rate. I guess it is possible that the UFC's scouting department has gotten worse or that the overall talent level in the sport has decreased.

 

[mjfan23]

Well, at the end of the day, fighters from TUF and DWCS would mostly have been scouted through the same process. Actually, for TUF usually they add a couple shit disturbers to cause drama in the house that have no chance of becoming successful fighters in the UFC, so in theory, DWCS should actually be hitting at a higher rate. I guess it is possible that the UFC's scouting department has gotten worse or that the overall talent level in the sport has decreased.

Or both

 

[Shadey1]

Really feel for Duombe here. The fight being cancelled was not his fault. Honestly they should have kept him for London perhaps. But I say that selfishly as that's a card I intend to go to ha.

 

[spinup]

Really feel for Duombe here. The fight being cancelled was not his fault. Honestly they should have kept him for London perhaps. But I say that selfishly as that's a card I intend to go to ha.

He is not cut, the UFC allowed him to get fights in regional league while waiting for the next card in France where he wants to make his debut.

Doumbe is still listed as active WW on the UFC websites:
https://www.ufc.com/athlete/cedric-doumbe
http://www.ufcstats.com/fighter-details/5159e6ee100c717e