Dricus du Plessis and Sean Strickland’s faces after their war at UFC 297

[IronGolem007]

Face damage means nothing.

Momentum and dominance mean everything.

Hagler's face was cut up, but Hearns' face was unblemished.

But Hearns was unconscious, on his back, at the end of the fight, while Hagler was elevated as the winner.

Only metrosexuals believe that "face damage" means anything; it's literally cosmetic.

 

[RonDante]

strickland outlanded DDP in all but 1 round.

effective striking is by impact not total numbers landed

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

Sean won that, rds 1, 2, 5. You could also give rd 3 for Sean imo.

to the numbers 1, 3, 4, 5, he outlanded

 

[RonDante]

check shit dork, sean won. 76 more strikes, 36 more sig strikes, more output/action rounds 1, 3, 4, 5, easy win.

You honestly believe he won 3 and 4? let me have some of what you’re smoking

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

Face damage means nothing.

Momentum and dominance mean everything.

Hagler's face was cut up, but Hearns' face was unblemished.

But Hearns was unconscious, on his back, at the end of the fight, while Hagler was elevated as the winner.

Only metrosexuals believe that "face damage" means anything; it's literally cosmetic.

show me the ruleset where momentum and dominance are the judging criteria. you dorks at first say its damage. but now its not?

 

[sdpdude9]

Sean's is a cut, DDP's face is hamburger meat.

Hamburger meat vs. multiple lacerations. They both look like they were in a fight. It’s a bad metric to judge fights though.

 

[Poirierfan]

to the numbers 1, 3, 4, 5, he outlanded

There ya go.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

You honestly believe he won 3 and 4? let me have some of what you’re smoking

yea because he landed more, duh. did more damage. weird, i know.

 

[Dick]

Face after fight doesn't mean much. Some guys, for example Fedor gets cut easily. Fedor would be spotting some bad cuts and bruises while he armbarred or KO'd a fool

GSP should of lost that fight though so moot point.

 

[Duke Kensington]

Watching live I was pretty sure dricus won.

If your argument for someone winning is strike count (especially significant strikes) or facial bruising post fight then you really don’t have much of an argument

 

[RonDante]

Face damage means nothing.

Momentum and dominance mean everything.

Hagler's face was cut up, but Hearns' face was unblemished.

But Hearns was unconscious, on his back, at the end of the fight, while Hagler was elevated as the winner.

Only metrosexuals believe that "face damage" means anything; it's literally cosmetic.

Face damage isn’t just literally cosmetic, it’s literally in the judging criteria . If you knock someone out yeah it doesn’t matter if you got cut, but if you have a close round it swings it

 

[RonDante]

yea because he landed more, duh. did more damage. weird, i know.

Yeah so when font landed a bantamweight strike record on vera it means he won the fight, duh. Number higher damage higher, weird I know

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

Yeah so when font landed a bantamweight strike record on vera it means he won the fight, duh. Number higher damage higher, weird I know

dude no ones talking about font. Sean landed 76 more strikes, 36 more sig strikes, and DDP clearly looks like it. Sean came in the fight with marks on his face, ate the illegal headbutt, etc. DDP wasnt this damage output machine you guys are pretending he is. Enough already. Quit arguing against actual numbers, strikes landed, that show four rounds to one, Sean won/didmore.

 

[boyer]

Face after fight doesn't mean much. Some guys, for example Fedor gets cut easily. Fedor would be spotting some bad cuts and bruises while he armbarred or KO'd a fool

Exactly, GSP did not win that fight.

 

[IronGolem007]

show me the ruleset where momentum and dominance are the judging criteria. you dorks at first say its damage. but now its not?

No idiot, I've likely been watching fines longer than you (and most of the judges) have been alive.

Facial damage is cosmetic, in comparison to unconsciousness, fatigue, falling back, lack of will, etc.

You're the dork who actually doesn't know enough to distinguish subtleties from obviousness.

 

[RonDante]

dude no ones talking about font. Sean landed 76 more strikes, 36 more sig strikes, and DDP clearly looks like it. Sean came in the fight with marks on his face, ate the illegal headbutt, etc. DDP wasnt this damage output machine you guys are pretending he is. Enough already. Quit arguing against actual numbers, strikes landed, that show four rounds to one, Sean won/didmore.

Okay, and Ron font outlanded chito in every round, he landed 112 more significant strikes total . You said more strikes more damage they win the round right? Which means all strikes have the same impact, so you think font beat chito if you have any principles

 

[sdpdude9]

OH REALLY - http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/14e53999507c76a7 - Sean 4 rounds to 1, more output, more active, more landed. What a stupid argument you have there.

Strickland got illeaglly headbutted. Sean landed way more, people pretend here that 76 additional strikes is some superfluous detail that should be ignored because, because, just because OK?????

Round 2- Even Total, +4 DDP Significant
Round 3- +2 Strickland total, +2 Strickland Significant
Round 4- +3 Strickland total, +4 Strickland Significant

Fights are scored by rounds, not overall. We’re talking a difference of 2-4 strikes in these rounds, which in real time is practically indistinguishable. Not to mention just pulling up stats is a poor way to judge fights in general. Not every strike is created equal, there’s more nuance than that.

 

[IronGolem007]

Face damage isn’t just literally cosmetic, it’s literally in the judging criteria . If you knock someone out yeah it doesn’t matter if you got cut, but if you have a close round it swings it

If facial damage is the only separation, I agree.

But if the "facially-damaged guy" is backing-up the other fighter, landing body shots, and breaking his spirit ... Ray Charles can see who is actually winning the fight.

Maybe rewatch Marciano versus Charles ... Marciano's nose was split in half, bleeding, the rep threatened to stop the fight, but the "unblemished" Charles is the one who wound up on the campus, KO'd and beaten.

You effing idiots would've gifted the fight to the unconscious Charles, while the "facially-damaged" Marciano stood above his lifeless corpse.

 

[RonDante]

Round 2- Even Total, +4 DDP Significant
Round 3- +2 Strickland total, +2 Strickland Significant
Round 4- +3 Strickland total, +4 Strickland Significant

Fights are scored by rounds, not overall. We’re talking a difference of 2-4 strikes in these rounds, which in real time is practically indistinguishable. Not to mention just pulling up stats is a poor way to judge fights in general. Not every strike is created equal, there’s more nuance than that.

I like Strickland, he proved to all the doubters he’s elite and even in a losing performance he saved face and his stock didn’t drop, but his fans are so irritating

 

[chardog]

effective striking is by impact not total numbers landed

effective striking is hurting your opponent, and sean wasnt hurt once, and that is because he rolled with most of the power shots by dricus.