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Not a good look for Trump whatsoever.Operation WarpSpeed, Thanks Trump!
Unfortunately not a win for any politician, as they were all behind it with no push back at all.
Not a good look for Trump whatsoever.Operation WarpSpeed, Thanks Trump!
It's targeted imo...So water, vitamin c, a good night of rest and sunshine are vaccines?
Writing and driving. It's loose but what it is. It's targeted... Don't care if it was changed. They use mrna for rabies and still called it a vaccine. I could care less what they call it. It's getting the body to respond to particular peptides found on the target be they viral or cancer based treatmentSimply increasing immunity is such a sloppy loose definition. Do you consider Vitamin D a vaccine?
The definition was in fact changed with the rollout of this treatment specifically. That's not really debatable.
Obviously it's label is secondary to it's safety and efficacy. It certainly seems odd that this change was made however, as an attempt to quell any discussion on how it actually works in the body. Your average person just thinks a vaccine is a vaccine, and their are no differences between them.Writing and driving. It's loose but what it is. It's targeted... Don't care if it was changed. They use mrna for rabies and still called it a vaccine. I could care less what they call it. It's getting the body to respond to particular peptides found on the target be they viral or cancer based treatment
Without very close monitoring- the type that should be done in a tightly controlled clinical study- adverse events are severely underreported.
"Underreporting" is one of the main limitations of passive surveillance systems, including VAERS. The term, underreporting refers to the fact that VAERS receives reports for only a small fraction of actual adverse events.
VAERS - Guide to Interpreting VAERS Data
vaers.hhs.gov
How can you assert adverse events are an anomaly when we don’t have a robust system to detect injuries? That’s my point, unless they’re very carefully monitoring adverse events, underreporting is guaranteed….Ok, however I'm unclear as to what the contention is...
Are you saying that the number of adverse events outweighs the number of vaccines administered to people who didn't actually experience any problems?
Unless we can compare hard data of adverse events vs vaccines administered effectively, I can't figure out what you and @Snubnoze707 are trying to say.
Nobody is declaring that outliers aren't possible - that's to be expected with almost anything with as many variables as human beings present. But the bottom line is, unless you have or had a better suggestion than vaccines to combat a worldwide epidemic, of which I am all ears, just sitting back and identifying anomalies doesn't seem to make much sense.
In general... mrna is short lived and used to transcribe proteins. Using them to have a peptide that will be recognized as foreign and is found on the target... yeah, I'm ok with it. To a lay person it IS a vaccine but there are different methods of delivery. They use several inactive flu viruses for vaccines each year and their efficacy is ok but not absolute as there are many variants. But yeah, in general.. I'm ok so far. There were clinical trials for tolerability etc. It may have been fast tracked but so are many.Obviously it's label is secondary to it's safety and efficacy. It certainly seems odd that this change was made however, as an attempt to quell any discussion on how it actually works in the body. Your average person just thinks a vaccine is a vaccine, and their are no differences between them.
How do you feel about it having systemic distribution and the potential to stay in the body for over a month? Are you comfortable injecting something into your body that modifies your own cells to illicit an immune attack on them?
That's all very nice, but the " vaccines" don't work. Plain and simple. Soooo many got the shots and still got COVID. It literally makes no sense. They changed the frkin definition of vaccine for Christ sakes.You do realize that nothing is perfect, correct?
Billions of people eat peanuts everyday, but for people like my wife who are allergic to peanuts, just a couple of them can be deadly. Should we stop selling peanuts for human consumption because an extreme minority are allergic?
The COVID vaccines have been administered over 1 billion times throughout the world. Given that amount of variables (ie., people) yes, there is going to be a very small percentage who don't tolerate the vaccines well. However given the number of shots administered vs those who didn't tolerate it well, it makes the COVID vaccine safety profile very good, better than something as benign as aspirin.
Given the age of the Internet, focusing on anomalies and suggesting some broad stroke be applied based on those outliers, is just not rational thinking. Sure, probably thousands of people had problems taking the vaccine, but the fact that a billion people got vaccinated without any problems should also weigh in. Vaccines are a tool used to prevent severe outbreaks, or limit them, for the greater good of society in general. If you think vaccines are/were not needed, by all means, suggest another course of action. What's unreasonable is just playing couch quarterback and criticizing everything without offering any solutions - ie., doing nothing is/was not an option, especially given the human species' problem with virus epidemics in the past.
People wanted to gamble and roll the dice with other people's lives (ie., it's just the flu bro), when nobody knew for certain how many would die or how bad it could get. Prudence would suggest that you try and mitigate as many deaths as possible, not do nothing and hope that all goes well.
That's all very nice, but the " vaccines" don't work. Plain and simple. Soooo many got the shots and still got COVID. It literally makes no sense. They changed the frkin definition of vaccine for Christ sakes.
You do realize that nothing is perfect, correct?
Billions of people eat peanuts everyday, but for people like my wife who are allergic to peanuts, just a couple of them can be deadly. Should we stop selling peanuts for human consumption because an extreme minority are allergic?
The COVID vaccines have been administered over 1 billion times throughout the world. Given that amount of variables (ie., people) yes, there is going to be a very small percentage who don't tolerate the vaccines well. However given the number of shots administered vs those who didn't tolerate it well, it makes the COVID vaccine safety profile very good, better than something as benign as aspirin.
Given the age of the Internet, focusing on anomalies and suggesting some broad stroke be applied based on those outliers, is just not rational thinking. Sure, probably thousands of people had problems taking the vaccine, but the fact that a billion people got vaccinated without any problems should also weigh in. Vaccines are a tool used to prevent severe outbreaks, or limit them, for the greater good of society in general. If you think vaccines are/were not needed, by all means, suggest another course of action. What's unreasonable is just playing couch quarterback and criticizing everything without offering any solutions - ie., doing nothing is/was not an option, especially given the human species' problem with virus epidemics in the past.
People wanted to gamble and roll the dice with other people's lives (ie., it's just the flu bro), when nobody knew for certain how many would die or how bad it could get. Prudence would suggest that you try and mitigate as many deaths as possible, not do nothing and hope that all goes well.
There were posters on here who legit claimed 50% of the people who took the vaccine would be dead in 4 years. Must be close to 4 years at this point. What happened?
Crazy to see so many get butt hurt that some random dude took the vax multiple times and didn’t die…
taking the shot 217 times?So, on this evil Covid vaccine that kills people all over the place- apparently not. You can spin all of the conspiracy theories you want, but a vaccine that was taken by the same man 217 times in 29 months without developing side effects or any kind of bodily harm? Nonharmful I'm afraid.
I can't wait to see the funny crazy responses that anti-vax weirdos will come up with to explain this one.
Edit: This was not a science experiment; the guy took the shots illegally and doctors asked to study him after the fact when they heard about it in the media.
Man who got 200+ COVID shots had no side effects: Study
A 62-year-old man received 217 COVID-19 shots in 29 months and had no adverse reactions but nearly the same immunity, according to study in The Lancet.www.beckershospitalreview.com
Ok, however I'm unclear as to what the contention is...
Are you saying that the number of adverse events outweighs the number of vaccines administered to people who didn't actually experience any problems?
Unless we can compare hard data of adverse events vs vaccines administered effectively, I can't figure out what you and @Snubnoze707 are trying to say.
Nobody is declaring that outliers aren't possible - that's to be expected with almost anything with as many variables as human beings present. But the bottom line is, unless you have or had a better suggestion than vaccines to combat a worldwide epidemic, of which I am all ears, just sitting back and identifying anomalies doesn't seem to make much sense.
OMNI1.Which posters are you speaking of? Name them and call them out on it if it really happened.
You do realize that this shot was FORCED on people under threat of losing their jobs, possibly their vehicles and homes due to losing income, and not being allowed to travel in their own country, out of their country, or, to assemble to worship, celebrate, or mourn the los of loved ones?