International Man takes 217 covid vaccines, anti-vax conspirators cry their eyes out

Simply increasing immunity is such a sloppy loose definition. Do you consider Vitamin D a vaccine?

The definition was in fact changed with the rollout of this treatment specifically. That's not really debatable.
Writing and driving. It's loose but what it is. It's targeted... Don't care if it was changed. They use mrna for rabies and still called it a vaccine. I could care less what they call it. It's getting the body to respond to particular peptides found on the target be they viral or cancer based treatment
 
Writing and driving. It's loose but what it is. It's targeted... Don't care if it was changed. They use mrna for rabies and still called it a vaccine. I could care less what they call it. It's getting the body to respond to particular peptides found on the target be they viral or cancer based treatment
Obviously it's label is secondary to it's safety and efficacy. It certainly seems odd that this change was made however, as an attempt to quell any discussion on how it actually works in the body. Your average person just thinks a vaccine is a vaccine, and their are no differences between them.

How do you feel about it having systemic distribution and the potential to stay in the body for over a month? Are you comfortable injecting something into your body that modifies your own cells to illicit an immune attack on them?
 
Without very close monitoring- the type that should be done in a tightly controlled clinical study- adverse events are severely underreported.

"Underreporting" is one of the main limitations of passive surveillance systems, including VAERS. The term, underreporting refers to the fact that VAERS receives reports for only a small fraction of actual adverse events.


Ok, however I'm unclear as to what the contention is...

Are you saying that the number of adverse events outweighs the number of vaccines administered to people who didn't actually experience any problems?

Unless we can compare hard data of adverse events vs vaccines administered effectively, I can't figure out what you and @Snubnoze707 are trying to say.

Nobody is declaring that outliers aren't possible - that's to be expected with almost anything with as many variables as human beings present. But the bottom line is, unless you have or had a better suggestion than vaccines to combat a worldwide epidemic, of which I am all ears, just sitting back and identifying anomalies doesn't seem to make much sense.
 
Ok, however I'm unclear as to what the contention is...

Are you saying that the number of adverse events outweighs the number of vaccines administered to people who didn't actually experience any problems?

Unless we can compare hard data of adverse events vs vaccines administered effectively, I can't figure out what you and @Snubnoze707 are trying to say.

Nobody is declaring that outliers aren't possible - that's to be expected with almost anything with as many variables as human beings present. But the bottom line is, unless you have or had a better suggestion than vaccines to combat a worldwide epidemic, of which I am all ears, just sitting back and identifying anomalies doesn't seem to make much sense.
How can you assert adverse events are an anomaly when we don’t have a robust system to detect injuries? That’s my point, unless they’re very carefully monitoring adverse events, underreporting is guaranteed….

For example, it took decades before we learned that MMR and other vaccines are associated with an increase is seizures (thousands of extra cases a year) and long term epilepsy. (hundreds of extra cases a year).


So before we knew this, people would proclaim it’s not true or at best “an anomaly” just the way you are…

“A query of the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) for symptoms involving seizures and convulsions from all measles vaccines (for U.S. children age 6 months to 2 years, between 2011 and 2015) results in about 90 seizure reports per year.[8] This is only 1.6% of the about 5,700 expected MMR-related seizures based on Vestergaard’s findings. Other serious vaccine adverse events after MMR, including deaths, may similarly be underreported.“
 
Obviously it's label is secondary to it's safety and efficacy. It certainly seems odd that this change was made however, as an attempt to quell any discussion on how it actually works in the body. Your average person just thinks a vaccine is a vaccine, and their are no differences between them.

How do you feel about it having systemic distribution and the potential to stay in the body for over a month? Are you comfortable injecting something into your body that modifies your own cells to illicit an immune attack on them?
In general... mrna is short lived and used to transcribe proteins. Using them to have a peptide that will be recognized as foreign and is found on the target... yeah, I'm ok with it. To a lay person it IS a vaccine but there are different methods of delivery. They use several inactive flu viruses for vaccines each year and their efficacy is ok but not absolute as there are many variants. But yeah, in general.. I'm ok so far. There were clinical trials for tolerability etc. It may have been fast tracked but so are many.
 
You do realize that nothing is perfect, correct?

Billions of people eat peanuts everyday, but for people like my wife who are allergic to peanuts, just a couple of them can be deadly. Should we stop selling peanuts for human consumption because an extreme minority are allergic?

The COVID vaccines have been administered over 1 billion times throughout the world. Given that amount of variables (ie., people) yes, there is going to be a very small percentage who don't tolerate the vaccines well. However given the number of shots administered vs those who didn't tolerate it well, it makes the COVID vaccine safety profile very good, better than something as benign as aspirin.

Given the age of the Internet, focusing on anomalies and suggesting some broad stroke be applied based on those outliers, is just not rational thinking. Sure, probably thousands of people had problems taking the vaccine, but the fact that a billion people got vaccinated without any problems should also weigh in. Vaccines are a tool used to prevent severe outbreaks, or limit them, for the greater good of society in general. If you think vaccines are/were not needed, by all means, suggest another course of action. What's unreasonable is just playing couch quarterback and criticizing everything without offering any solutions - ie., doing nothing is/was not an option, especially given the human species' problem with virus epidemics in the past.

People wanted to gamble and roll the dice with other people's lives (ie., it's just the flu bro), when nobody knew for certain how many would die or how bad it could get. Prudence would suggest that you try and mitigate as many deaths as possible, not do nothing and hope that all goes well.
That's all very nice, but the " vaccines" don't work. Plain and simple. Soooo many got the shots and still got COVID. It literally makes no sense. They changed the frkin definition of vaccine for Christ sakes.
 
Crazy to see so many get butt hurt that some random dude took the vax multiple times and didn’t die…
 
Due to my military status I got both Moderna shots before 98% of America.

That being said... the vaccine wasn't for everyone. Aren't countries like Sweden and South Korea full of lawsuits due to how many deaths the vaccine caused?
 
That's all very nice, but the " vaccines" don't work. Plain and simple. Soooo many got the shots and still got COVID. It literally makes no sense. They changed the frkin definition of vaccine for Christ sakes.

That's crazy. Normally vaccines stop viruses from being as transmissible and dangerous, thus effectively eliminating the virus as a going concern.

COVID is pretty much no longer a going concern, but this is totally unrelated to vaccines somehow.
 

It's not the messenger, it's the message.

With people suddenly dropping dead all over the mRNA-vaccinated world, with oncologists reporting massive increases in cancers, turbo-cancers never previously encountered, with studies documenting menstrual and fertility problems with Covid-vaccinated women, with young children having heart attacks, with a new form of blood clots that look like linguine, with outbreaks of Guillain-Barre syndrome and neurological ailments, myocarditis, pericarditis, spinal cord and brain inflammations, and every other kind of health horror, a controlled narrative explanation is needed.

Big Pharma is dealing with the problem by rounding up a collection of its grant-bribed medical researches to admit the problem but to trivialize it as “rare.”

From all appearances Big Pharma put together an international study by 21 medical “scientists” that concluded from 99 million vaccinated individuals that the mRNA vaccines have “rare” harmful effects.

The study concluded that “safety signals” (note the euphemism) existed for all the mRNA vaccines “for myocarditis, pericarditis, Guillain-Barre syndrome, and cerebral venous sinus thrombosis. Other potential safety signals that require further investigation were identified. “https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24001270?via=ihub

This might not be what Big Pharma, the NIH, CDC, FDA, and the corrupt money-driven American medical establishment wanted to hear, but the presstitutes fixed it for them.

Jason Gale at Bloomberg news reports that the vaccine study found links to adverse impacts on health, but the cases were small in number, “rare events.” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...9.4RoEJUE-HLCnxX_ObQVjhzhezH3eRLYR8hu_A-ynv74

The professional liar, Fact Check.org, reported: “Study Largely Confirms Known, Rare COVID-19 Vaccine Side Effects.” https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/s...=email&utm_term=0_-ab87cb2fc2-[LIST_EMAIL_ID]

Note “largely” and “rare.” In other words the failure of the “vaccine” is not a big deal. Neither is its deadly effects which have killed more people than the virus itself.

In the opening sentences of its coverup for the deadly “vaccine”, factcheck.org discounts the “rare” side effects with the false argument that the virus “has killed millions of people globally and would likely have killed millions more without the arrival of the vaccines. There is a broad consensus from experts and governmental health agencies that the benefits of COVID-19 vaccination outweigh the risks.”

In other words, the factcheck whores are intentionally lying. It is now known and admitted that the vaccine did not protect against Covid, did not prevent transmission, and that the virus itself was not very deadly, with most deaths occurring among elderly and ill people with compromised immune systems, and among people who were denied effective and available treatments, instead being hastened to their deaths with ventilators.

What has happened to destroy the character of Americans so thoroughly that they lie for money at the expense of truth and the lives of people and have the audacity to call themselves “fact checkers”?

There are some important things here for our notice. First, the authorities are admitting that the independent scientists, the relatively few who are not on the payrolls of Big Pharma and its medical industry vassals, are vindicated. The independent scientists said without hesitation that the mRNA “vaccines” would have the effects that have now been acknowledged by a corrupt medical establishment.

Second, there are large numbers of scientists, doctors, and presstitutes who will sell out truth for money, such as those who describe people dropping dead on a daily basis as “rare” when it it happening all over the vaccinated world. Once upon a time long time ago science was funded by university budgets. Now science is funded by outside interests with agendas and is thoroughly corrupted.

Third, the entirety of the Western media, incompetent in every hard subject, is content to be fed the approved narrative and regurgitates it to the population that sits in front of the TV screen, listens to NPA or reads the NY times.

The result is a population devoid of accurate and true information and incapable of realizing it.

Americans, indeed the entirety of the Western World, and perhaps Russia herself, are sitting ducks for the next orchestrated pandemic.

Will it be an ebola one? If so, what is the role of the Chinese scientists in Canada who sent illegally the ebola virus to Wuhan?

Canadian lab that handles world’s deadliest viruses tightens security after investigation finds researchers with connections to the Chinese government and military gained access and MAILED live Ebola virus to Wuhan: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...an-virus-lab-security-chinese-government.html

Why are Western governments violating law and conducting illegal biowarfare research? Why does Congress do nothing about it?

Why do Western peoples not know and not care?
 
You do realize that nothing is perfect, correct?

Billions of people eat peanuts everyday, but for people like my wife who are allergic to peanuts, just a couple of them can be deadly. Should we stop selling peanuts for human consumption because an extreme minority are allergic?

The COVID vaccines have been administered over 1 billion times throughout the world. Given that amount of variables (ie., people) yes, there is going to be a very small percentage who don't tolerate the vaccines well. However given the number of shots administered vs those who didn't tolerate it well, it makes the COVID vaccine safety profile very good, better than something as benign as aspirin.

Given the age of the Internet, focusing on anomalies and suggesting some broad stroke be applied based on those outliers, is just not rational thinking. Sure, probably thousands of people had problems taking the vaccine, but the fact that a billion people got vaccinated without any problems should also weigh in. Vaccines are a tool used to prevent severe outbreaks, or limit them, for the greater good of society in general. If you think vaccines are/were not needed, by all means, suggest another course of action. What's unreasonable is just playing couch quarterback and criticizing everything without offering any solutions - ie., doing nothing is/was not an option, especially given the human species' problem with virus epidemics in the past.

People wanted to gamble and roll the dice with other people's lives (ie., it's just the flu bro), when nobody knew for certain how many would die or how bad it could get. Prudence would suggest that you try and mitigate as many deaths as possible, not do nothing and hope that all goes well.

You do realize that this shot was FORCED on people under threat of losing their jobs, possibly their vehicles and homes due to losing income, and not being allowed to travel in their own country, out of their country, or, to assemble to worship, celebrate, or mourn the los of loved ones?

Are you aware of what informed consent is? - Informed consent is the process in which a health care provider educates a patient about the risks, benefits, and alternatives of a given procedure or intervention.

There was no "informed consent" concerning the COVID jabs which had little clinical trials, flawed clinical trials, and no long term clinical data. People were told by their physicians, the CDC, WHO, and most any clinic administering it at the start of the rollout that it was "Safe and effective".

People who received the vaccine have stopped getting updates / boosters. I don't have a single friend or co-worker who's kept up to date on receiving it. I wonder why the people who were eager to receive the two series shots and a few boosters have given up on receiving the latest shot?

Do you think a "vaccine" that doesn't stop people from developing COVID, has killed and maimed people, and didn't fit Webster's original definition of a vaccine was worth the risk to anyone who wasn't at risk of dying to COVID? If so, why? If not, why even argue?
 
There were posters on here who legit claimed 50% of the people who took the vaccine would be dead in 4 years. Must be close to 4 years at this point. What happened?

Which posters are you speaking of? Name them and call them out on it if it really happened.
 
- I took three and was thinking i was special!:(

But took the dengue one also!
 
Crazy to see so many get butt hurt that some random dude took the vax multiple times and didn’t die…

That's your takeaway from this thread LMAO? People are saying he's a moron, that's way different than being "butthurt". In addition people are wondering how the hell pharmacies and health care professionals were stupid, wasteful, and reckless enough to keep giving the dude shot after shot.

I mean, I'm vaxxed and boosted and I'm in the group that thinks this is fucking moronic. Of course it was always gonna turn into a thread about the covid vaccine overall, but I haven't seen one person "butthurt" that this dude lived, that's made up in your own head.

As for the overall discussion, there was probably some misleading info about the vaccine when it was rolled out. Because of the speed that they did it, that was likely an inevitability. I don't regret getting it, but the mandates and threatening people who refused was complete bullshit and an infringement on freedom of bodily autonomy imo. And people who try to belittle those who didn't want it and label them "anti-vaxxers" and shit like that is lowbrow. Again, I personally CHOSE to get it. MY CHOICE. But I damn sure am not gonna trash those who chose not to. I thought we were supposed to champion freedom?
 
So, on this evil Covid vaccine that kills people all over the place- apparently not. You can spin all of the conspiracy theories you want, but a vaccine that was taken by the same man 217 times in 29 months without developing side effects or any kind of bodily harm? Nonharmful I'm afraid.

I can't wait to see the funny crazy responses that anti-vax weirdos will come up with to explain this one.

Edit: This was not a science experiment; the guy took the shots illegally and doctors asked to study him after the fact when they heard about it in the media.

taking the shot 217 times?

it's a habit, not a miracle.
 
Ok, however I'm unclear as to what the contention is...

Are you saying that the number of adverse events outweighs the number of vaccines administered to people who didn't actually experience any problems?

Unless we can compare hard data of adverse events vs vaccines administered effectively, I can't figure out what you and @Snubnoze707 are trying to say.

Nobody is declaring that outliers aren't possible - that's to be expected with almost anything with as many variables as human beings present. But the bottom line is, unless you have or had a better suggestion than vaccines to combat a worldwide epidemic, of which I am all ears, just sitting back and identifying anomalies doesn't seem to make much sense.

There's zero tracking on vaccine incidents. The FDA/CDC has zero idea what the real vaccine adverse effect rate is...

If someone brings up vaers, they'll respond that its trash data.

lovely...

Nice mass roll out of a vaccine with brand new technology with almost zero phase 3 testing and no way to test adverse reactions.

Including a nurse who was televised getting the vaccine in the first week and passing out minutes later... Only to be kept hidden from public view for 3 years plus now. And when a family member was contacted, they said they couldn't talk about it because of a NDA.

Not suspect what-so-ever

Keep defending this shit... seriously, ya'll look like a bunch of brainless lemmings

The Covid "vax" is not a vaccine in any sense of the definition before they changed it. At best its a pre-treatment to reduce severe symptoms.. and i don't even think it does that now.

I'm not anti-vax. There's several that do what they're supposed to.

But you have to understand how a huge segment of the population has lost faith in health "experts". We were lied to many times, either knowingly or not.

Peter Hotez was the worst...
 
Which posters are you speaking of? Name them and call them out on it if it really happened.
OMNI1.

And I'm not tagging him, because he'll go on for pages like this:

" Oh Plucky! You're the guinea pig! *Chuckle* Kids are dropping dead all over! Are you autistic? *Chuckle* "

No thanks.
 
You do realize that this shot was FORCED on people under threat of losing their jobs, possibly their vehicles and homes due to losing income, and not being allowed to travel in their own country, out of their country, or, to assemble to worship, celebrate, or mourn the los of loved ones?

I had to stop with your very first paragraph.

The ONLY reason your employer was able to FORCE you to get a vaccine is from the Republican-led initiative "at will employment" that they championed 30 years ago. This policy stated that an employer could fire someone FOR ANY REASON, without explanation. You were warned by all the libtards at the time that this might come back to bite you in the ass, given employers were empowered to do whatever the hell they wanted with your employment status, if for no other reason than they woke up on the wrong side of the bed that morning.

So, much like most Republican policy that favors the wealthy and/or employers over your average joe, you made this bed, now lie in it. Maybe ask some of your GOP voting friends who were around at the time for advice, like "if you don't like having to get a shot or produce negative tests every week, pull yourself up by your bootstraps and find a new employer".
 
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