Brady > Belichick ?

[Dizzy]

Just take the L, you 100% bought this

You defend Brady every time someone suggests that he’s not the GOAT and now you’re trying to dupe all of your fellow Brady white knights? Sure…

Incredibly clear that he was watching that video in complete awe lmao

 

[ExitLUPin]

You might have mental retardation if you still think this is a debate

 

[Corona]

Brady undoubtedly would’ve motivated his defense to not get destroyed in this game imo.

 

[Thad Castle v2]

Yes

 

[ExitLUPin]

 

['Rocky']

Belchick for sure.

 

[asharak]

Don't forget this:
Jordan's record without Pippen: Regular Season: 154-170 (47.5%) Playoffs: 1-9 (10%)
Pippen's record without Jordan: Regular Season: 295-185 (61.4%) Playoffs: 19-21 (47.5%)

 

[rj144]

BB taught Brady the system he brought to the Bucs. It's a lot easier to go to a already built team, install a culture, and win (not easy, but easier). It's a lot harder to rebuild an entire team when the GOAT QB leaves. I don't understand why so many can't see that.

They're both GOATs... Brady is just having an easier time now.

 

[Benjamin Burton]

Brady for sure Bellicheck just sits on the sidelines looking like a overweight fashion diva Brady does the work

 

[Madmick]

Don't forget this:
Jordan's record without Pippen: Regular Season: 154-170 (47.5%) Playoffs: 1-9 (10%)
Pippen's record without Jordan: Regular Season: 295-185 (61.4%) Playoffs: 19-21 (47.5%)

That's a garbage stat. Pippen doesn't get enough respect, certainly, but Jordan spent most of that time right after being recruited as a rookie to a Bulls team that had been dogshit for decades. That Bulls team struggles to notch 50 wins for that span without Jordan on it. Meanwhile, Pippen played on the already-developed Bulls championship rosters and the original superstar-stacked collusion Houston teams after Jordan left him.

 

[My Spot]

Don't forget this:
Jordan's record without Pippen: Regular Season: 154-170 (47.5%) Playoffs: 1-9 (10%)
Pippen's record without Jordan: Regular Season: 295-185 (61.4%) Playoffs: 19-21 (47.5%)

Now do MVP and FMVP awards.

 

[asharak]

That's a garbage stat. Pippen doesn't get enough respect, certainly, but Jordan spent most of that time right after being recruited as a rookie to a Bulls team that had been dogshit for decades. That Bulls team struggles to notch 50 wins without Jordan on it. Meanwhile, Pippen played on the already-developed Bulls championship rosters and the original superstar-stacked collusion teams after Jordan left him.

That's kind of the point in this thread...

Now do MVP and FMVP awards.

I have no idea why you want this, but here you go
Jordan without Pippen : 0 MVPs, 0 FMVPs
Pippen Without Jordan : 0 MVPs, 0 FMVPs

 

[My Spot]

That's kind of the point in this thread...


I have no idea why you want this, but here you go
Jordan without Pippen : 0 MVPs, 0 FMVPs
Pippen Without Jordan : 0 MVPs, 0 FMVPs

 

[ferrisjso]

I used to be on team Belichick but Brady's time with the Bucs shows that NE's TE/slot/pass catching RB centered system made Brady look like much more of a game manager than he actually was.

Three seasons Brady had real deep threat receivers he threw for 40 TD's or more and while Brady was limited in the beginning after 2007 if anything the Patriots system held Brady back and gave him the reputation of a dink and dunker he really didn't deserve.

 

[Madmick]

That's kind of the point in this thread...

It's an idiotic point. Jordan and Pippen played together. It was obvious to everyone Jordan was the greater player, including every person on the Bulls team or coaching staff, and that's held up statistically.

Comparing wins and losses is moot when you have a far more direct and sensible juxtaposition of relevant prowess. Jordan was the greater player. \

No such direct comparison exists for Rodgers and Brady. That's why people compare wins and losses (not to mention a million other stats where Brady is obviously greater).

 

[Da Speeit]

I used to be on team Belichick but Brady's time with the Bucs shows that NE's TE/slot/pass catching RB centered system made Brady look like much more of a game manager than he actually was.

Three seasons Brady had real deep threat receivers he threw for 40 TD's or more and while Brady was limited in the beginning after 2007 if anything the Patriots system held Brady back and gave him the reputation of a dink and dunker he really didn't deserve.

Belichick with a stud O-Line, three #1 WRs, Gronk, the most vicious front 7 in football and a rotating carousel of elite runningbacks vs Brady with this current Patriots roster. Who getting to a superbowl faster?

 

[ferrisjso]

Belichick with a stud O-Line, three #1 WRs, Gronk, the most vicious front 7 in football and a rotating carousel of elite runningbacks vs Brady with this current Patriots roster. Who getting to a superbowl faster?

I don't know how Belichick would acquire three #1 WR's and it would depend on his QB and luck in the playoffs. But in this scenario you're giving Bill almost everything and Brady almost nothing. I will say that last Pats Super Bowl team wasn't very good on offense and Brady got the very most out of them. But it's hard to really seperate the credit for Brady and Bill on that one because Bill was a big part of holding that explosive Rams D to 3 points.

 

[asharak]

It's an idiotic point. Jordan and Pippen played together. It was obvious to everyone Jordan was the greater player, including every person on the Bulls team or coaching staff, and that's held up statistically.

Comparing wins and losses is moot when you have a far more direct and sensible juxtaposition of relevant prowess. Jordan was the greater player. \

No such direct comparison exists for Rodgers and Brady. That's why people compare wins and losses (not to mention a million other stats where Brady is obviously greater).

Again, that was the point of the post.
But now, since you appear to be asking for it, Phil>>>>Jordan.

Jordan without Phil:
Regular season 182-228(44%)
Postseason 1-9(11%)
0 Championships

Phil Without Jordan:
Regular season 665-319 (68%)
Postseason 124-67(65%)
5 Championships

 

[Madmick]

Again, that was the point of the post.
But now, since you appear to be asking for it, Phil>>>>Jordan.

Jordan without Phil:
Regular season 182-228(44%)
Postseason 1-9(11%)
0 Championships

Phil Without Jordan:
Regular season 665-319 (68%)
Postseason 124-67(65%)
5 Championships

 

[Da Speeit]

I don't know how Belichick would acquire three #1 WR's .

Be the head coach of the Buccaneers