Social John Cena profusely apologizes to Chinese netizens and China for calling Taiwan a country

[ineverpost]

Typical celebrity BS ; the vast majority of them are only 'speaking out' against entities within free democracies because they can easily posture and grandstand without any repercussions.
So much easier than speaking against CCP and their wicked ways.

You give too much credit. They are apologizing because most of their bullshit merch gets made there and they don't want their movies banned. They give 0 fucks about the actual politics.

 

[SanchoMF]

You give too much credit. They are apologizing because most of their bullshit merch gets made there and they don't want their movies banned. They give 0 fucks about the actual politics.

I might underestimate the level of stupidity and selfishness out there.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Name one of those countries that are communist.

China isn't any more communist in practice than Israel is. So it's okay to force American citizens to pledge allegiance to a foreign government in order to work or get emergency aid as long as that country doesn't have a ruling party with Communist in its name?

 

[BAM]

If we're talking about a person struggling to make ends meet or who is otherwise precarious financially then yes $50 can mean a lot and I understand being a bit PC to protect your livelihood but John Cena is worth ~$60 million, he's not going to go hungry or homeless if he takes a moral stand here.

Weird to see Lefty posters coming to Cena's defense but whatever.

When it comes to Cena, I think Hollywood is more about finding a sense of purpose post-wresting than about the money per se. Kinda like a lot of ex-athlete types taking up coaching or in-studio analysis roles.

If you heard him sell the WWE ever, he sells it like a CEO would sell the product to shareholders. He would speak in corporate talking points, have a scripted response for everything, very robotic in that sense, super diplomatic, and calculated. When he's in promotion mode, I don't think the politics really occur or matter to him. He is a product of capitalism and corporate America, this is what he is, what he has always been. He didn't sell out, there were no principles to abandon.

I've only seen him break from that once, and that was not doing a WWE show in Saudi Arabia shortly after the Jamal Khashoggi assassination. That was likely more about his career in Hollywood rather than personal convictions.

 

[FIGHTING TALK]

John Cena is a pussy.

Never apologise and never back down.

If he had any balls at all he would have doubled down and said “I’d like to apologise, to absolutely no one connected with the nation of Taiwan. Your country absolutely sucks!”

 

[GearSolidMetal]

The best thing associated with JohnCena wasn't even done by John Cena.

Ok, this is gold.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

China isn't any more communist in practice than Israel is.

Oh sure, that's believeable.

One country currently has concentration camps and the other's people has a long history with being victims of concentration camps.

You knocked that one out of the park there, Jackie.

 

[ShadowRun]

China isn't any more communist in practice than Israel is. So it's okay to force American citizens to pledge allegiance to a foreign government in order to work or get emergency aid as long as that country doesn't have a ruling party with Communist in its name?

Sig worthy lol

 

[RowdyLesnar]

Cena didn't do anything wrong. He misspoke, that's literally it. He wasn't trying to get into a political discussion and when it became that due to a simple misstatement, he refused to partake because it's a no-win situation for him. He's just an actor promoting a movie. Leave the dude alone.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Oh sure, that's believeable.

One country currently has concentration camps and the other's people has a long history with being victims of concentration camps.

You knocked that one out of the park there, Jackie.

Concentration camps are NOT exclusive to communism, as exemplified by their use in Nazi Germany which was explicitly anti communist and socialist. And many of the Jews who founded and populated Israel were communist or socialist, as exemplified by the kibbutzim that flourished across the country in their early years and some of which still exist today, and the many socialist policies implemented there, many of which still exist today.

Anyway, as a dishonest political hack, you're throwing all of these things at me to try to distract from the fact that an increasing amount of Americans are having their 1st Amendment rights to free speech and religious freedom violated by being forced to pledge allegiance to a foreign government. But more and more people are starting to wake up and realize what's going on and are no longer falling for the misinformation put out by you and your ilk.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Concentration camps are NOT exclusive to communism, as exemplified by their use in Nazi Germany which was explicitly anti communist and socialist. And many of the Jews who founded and populated Israel were communist or socialist, as exemplified by the kibbutzim that flourished across the country in their early years and some of which still exist today, and the many socialist policies implemented there, many of which still exist today.

They're used by totalitarian regimes to commit genocide. Name one time in history Israel has ever done that.

I'll wait.

Anyway, as a dishonest political hack, you're

No, that's you.

throwing all of these things at me to try to distract from the fact that an increasing amount of Americans are having their 1st Amendment rights to free speech and religious freedom violated by being forced to pledge allegiance to a foreign government. But more and more people are starting to wake up and realize what's going on and are no longer falling for the misinformation put out by you and your ilk.

Bullshit.

Israel is the lone democracy in the middle east, which values human rights even for the 1.3 million muslims in their border.

To conflate this as 'communism' in your argument is disingenuous at best, and antisemetism at worst.

You decide.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

They're used by totalitarian regimes to commit genocide. Name one time in history Israel has ever done that.

I'll wait.



No, that's you.



Bullshit.

Israel is the lone democracy in the middle east, which values human rights even for the 1.3 million muslims in their border.

To conflate this as 'communism' in your argument is disingenuous at best, and antisemetism at worst.

You decide.

You have neither the intellectualism nor the intellectual honesty to properly engage in this discussion with me. I'm not going to engage with you as you engage in so many bad faith attacks at the same time. Which is sad because you used to be one of my favorite posters on this site and you're still pretty good on nonpolitical issues. But when it comes to politics you're a complete hack and a disreputable cocksucker. I hope you will recognize this behavior and reflect and change, but sadly I doubt you will.

 

[Heisenboom]

What a bundle of sticks.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

You have neither the intellectualism nor the intellectual honesty to properly engage in this discussion with me.

Because you have no arguement as to how Israel is communist.

Not.
One.
Fact.
Is.
In.
Your.
Favor.

/End of discussion.

 

[TrueBias]

I didnt know it wasnt a country so i just googled it.



And i still dont know..

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Because you have no arguement as to how Israel is communist.

Not.
One.
Fact.
Is.
In.
Your.
Favor.

/End of discussion.

I NEVER claimed Israel was communist, you dishonest hack. I'm claiming that China has abandoned communism for capitalism since Mao died, which is true. Try to argue in good faith for once!



PS - There's no "e" in argument by the way, which is a great example of your intellectual limits. Stick to driving trucks or making Uber Eats deliveries and leave political discussions alone.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

I NEVER claimed Israel was communist, you dishonest hack. I'm claiming that China has abandoned communism for capitalism since Mao died, which is true. Try to argue in good faith for once!

What does CCP stand for?

And no, just because China has adopted some capitalism, with the permission of its ruling class, that doesn't mean they're any less communistic than they were before.

Unless, you're one of the 'REAL communism has never been tried' idiots.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

What does CCP stand for?

And no, just because China has adopted some capitalism, with the permission of its ruling class, that doesn't mean they're any less communistic than they were before.

Unless, you're one of the 'REAL communism has never been tried' idiots.

LOL. If you're attempting communism like Maoist China was and then you add in MAJOR capitalist reforms for almost 50 years as they have, by definition they are less communist than they were. A fucking child could figure that out. You're out of your league, son. And I am ANTI communist so your last insinuation is ridiculous as usual. Do better, be better.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

LOL. If you're attempting communism like Maoist China was and then you add in MAJOR capitalist reforms for almost 50 years as they have, by definition they are less communist than they were. A fucking child could figure that out. You're out of your league, son. And I am ANTI communist so your last insinuation is ridiculous as usual. Do better, be better.

Reality Check - Every corporation that is created in China is created by the CPP for the interests of the CPP, and all entrepreneurs must seek permission from the CPP to create a business and would be shut down if they ever grew so large they could challenge a CPP corporation.

And you think this makes them no longer communist? Show me where between Mao and now when they embraced human rights for all of their citizens.

How about when they plan to have free and open election again?

 

[Cirris]

It must be so sad to be a Taiwanese citizen watching all these foreign celebs deny their right to self-governance.

I mean seriously, how can you morally justify apologizing to China nationals that the Taiwanese aren't allowed to be their own nation.

It's really sickening.

Much like the middle east bullshit.