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Probably around there yeahcould be 11-15 ish
Probably around there yeahcould be 11-15 ish
by the way where do you find the historical rankings of the Ring in the past....Probably around there yeah
Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings Archivesby the way where do you find the historical rankings of the Ring in the past....
I was wondering this the other day so I think you're the guy to ask Kov. You're a pretty objective dude, I cosigned you on here not long after you joined so I know you're cool. What do you think about wins vs the WAY somebody wins? Breazeale is not a great fighter by any means, how much more credit, in your opinion does a guy like Wilder get for ko'ing the way he did, if any?BoxRec had Breazeale as a top 10 HW contender at the time he fought Wilder. Here's a snapshot 6 days after the Wilder fight (not long before the fight wasn't an option). The Ring and the TBRB didn't have him in their rankings. ESPN? I haven't checked their recent past heavyweight rankings yet.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190424162845/boxrec.com/en/boxer/629462
Thanks dude. I consider the overall performance and method of victory, yeah. For example, Fury beat a slightly younger Wlad that hadn't lost in 11 years but it was a spoiling type of performance that put everybody off. AJ went to war with a recently beaten slightly older version of Wlad but he managed to stop him. Fury's performance was more impressive as far as taking less damage and winning more rounds but AJ got the better end result. Given the expectations at the time, the odds, and Wlad's form at that time, Fury's win was more impressive but I'd say AJ's victory over Wlad isn't far behind.I was wondering this the other day so I think you're the guy to ask Kov. You're a pretty objective dude, I cosigned you on here not long after you joined so I know you're cool. What do you think about wins vs the WAY somebody wins? Breazeale is not a great fighter by any means, how much more credit, in your opinion does a guy like Wilder get for ko'ing the way he did, if any?
Fury getting a decision over Wlad in Germany honestly is more impressive than Joshua knocking Wlad outThanks dude. I consider the overall performance and method of victory, yeah. For example, Fury beat a slightly younger Wlad that hadn't lost in 11 years but it was a spoiling type of performance that put everybody off. AJ went to war with a recently beaten slightly older version of Wlad but he managed to stop him. Fury's performance was more impressive as far as taking less damage and winning more rounds but AJ got the better end result. Given the expectations at the time, the odds, and Wlad's form at that time, Fury's win was more impressive but I'd say AJ's victory over Wlad isn't far behind.
As for your actual question, I don't give much extra credit to Wilder if any for the way he handled Breazeale. As you said Breazeale is a bottom top 10 ranked contender or a fringe top 10 guy at best.
Looking back will wilder be seen as dominant in the way Wlad was. Both dominant but sub par competition
In terms of legacy, resume. Their title runs etc. would you put him on Wlad’s level?
The other day I asked the question if TS was always an idiot. The reminder of this thread could not be a more emphatic answer.