Crime Mass shooting in Russia at Crocus City Hall

[HARRISON_3]

I like you, but this is fucking stupid.

Sorry, first thing I thought of when I read Crocus

 

[irish_thug]

I like you, but this is fucking stupid.

which is why it is no more

 

[irish_thug]

 

[koquerelle]

Sorry, first thing I thought of when I read Crocus

NP. I watched the videos and I'm on edge. Sorry.

 

[Cole train]

i'm watching some real pro-looking shooting in there.
the guys executing civilians in the corner had the exact posture you'd expect from someone knowing how to shoot a semi.
and some commentators are saying shotguns. bro..that's not how shotguns shoot.

I would not call that pro gun work since they just shoot straight in close range.

Extremely cold blooded yes and clearly are probably members of some group/have experience in this department


(pro gun work was balkan war vets turned criminals versus west euro police in shootouts back in day)

 

[Rod1]

Terrible. Terrible… .

Saw this on Reddit just now and it alarms me how conspiracy theories and false flag event comments are thrown around and are really “acceptable” when it involves Russia or the bad dudes.

Its not like Russia doesn't has a long history of using false flags to justify wars.


But the fact that the US gave warning leads me to believe this is terrorism, otherwise they would had straight up told Putin not to try it.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

I would not call that pro gun work since they just shoot straight in close range.

Extremely cold blooded yes and clearly are probably members of some group/have experience in this department


(pro gun work was balkan war vets turned criminals versus west euro police in shootouts back in day)

yeah, most people can't shoot for shit straight, can't hold a weapon, not to mention don't have the balls to do this.

 

[Rational Poster]

yeah, most people can't shoot for shit straight, can't hold a weapon, not to mention don't have the balls to do this.

I think the craziest part is they managed to escape.

 

[DC23]

Its not like Russia doesn't has a long history of using false flags to justify wars.


But the fact that the US gave warning leads me to believe this is terrorism, otherwise they would had straight up told Putin not to try it.

Yeah I get it. But what I’m saying is that it’s acceptable to proclaim these outlandish statements as long as it’s against a certain type of group / country / person with no backlash or finger pointing.

 

[Cole train]

yeah, most people can't shoot for shit straight, can't hold a weapon, not to mention don't have the balls to do this.

My experience differs considering weapon handling (though im in a country with conscription so my view might be bit unique)

Agree about the balls part

 

[Rod1]

i'm watching some real pro-looking shooting in there.
the guys executing civilians in the corner had the exact posture you'd expect from someone knowing how to shoot a semi.
and some commentators are saying shotguns. bro..that's not how shotguns shoot.

Don't know what pro-shooting looks like but i saw the gopro footage of that guy that shot up a mosque and the walmart terrorist guy.

Neither were military but they shot straight, my guess is that its not hard to beat unarmed civilians with a semiauto.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

I think the craziest part is they managed to escape.

which makes it different from Beslan/Nord Ost theater siege type attacks, where they aimed to dig in. this was in, hit, out.

 

[koquerelle]

It looks like the terrorists booby-trapped the car they arrived in.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

My experience differs considering weapon handling (though im in a country with conscription so my view might be bit unique)

Agree about the balls part

we were just talking how basically every man in finland shot a gun in his life. finland is definitely not an average country in that respect.

 

[Rational Poster]

Yeah I get it. But what I’m saying is that it’s acceptable to proclaim these outlandish statements as long as it’s against a certain type of group / country / person with no backlash or finger pointing.

Literally every mass shooting in America someone on here calls it a false flag.

 

[syct23]

Kremlin says 40 killed and more than 100 wounded in attack on Moscow concert hall​

AP

A massive blaze is seen over the Crocus City Hall on the western edge of Moscow, Russia, Friday, March 22, 2024. Several gunmen have burst into a big concert hall in Moscow and fired automatic weapons at the crowd, injuring an unspecified number of people and setting a massive blaze in an apparent terror attack days after President Vladimir Putin cemented his grip on the country in a highly orchestrated electoral landslide. (AP Photo/Dmitry Serebryakov)

MOSCOW (AP) - Russia's Federal Security Service said 40 people died and more than 100 were wounded in an attack Friday at a Moscow concert hall.

The attack, which Russian authorities are investigating as terrorism, is the deadliest in Russia in recent years.

Several gunmen burst into the concert hall on the edge of Moscow and sprayed visitors with automatic gunfire, killing and wounding dozens and starting a massive blaze. Russian media reported that the venue's roof was collapsing.

The attack comes days after President Vladimir Putin cemented his grip on the country in a highly orchestrated electoral landslide.


THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. AP's earlier story follows below.

MOSCOW (AP) - Several gunmen burst into a big concert hall on the edge of Moscow on Friday and sprayed visitors with automatic gunfire, injuring an unspecified number of people and starting a massive blaze in an apparent terror attack days after President Vladimir Putin cemented his grip on the country in a highly orchestrated electoral landslide.

There were no immediate claims of responsibility for the raid, the worst terror attack in Russia in many years that came as the fighting in Ukraine dragged into a third year. Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin described the attack as a "huge tragedy."


Russia's top domestic security agency, the Federal Security Service, said there are dead and wounded but didn't give any numbers. State investigators opened a criminal probe into what they described as a "terror attack."

Russian news reports said that the assailants threw explosives, triggering a massive blaze at the Crocus City Hall on the western edge of Moscow. Video posted on social media showed huge plumes of black smoke rising over the building.

The attack took place as crowds gathered for a concert of Picnic, a famed Russian rock band, at the hall that can accommodate over 6,000 people. Russian news reports said that visitors were being evacuated, but some said that an unspecified number of people could have been trapped by the blaze.


The prosecutor's office said several men in combat fatigues entered the concert hall and fired at visitors.

Extended rounds of gunfire could be heard on multiple videos posted by Russian media and Telegram channels. One showed two men with rifles moving through the mall. Another one showed a man inside the auditorium, saying the assailants set it on fire, as gunshots rang out incessantly in the background.

More videos showed up to four attackers, armed with assault rifles and wearing caps, who were shooting screaming people at point-blank range.

Andrei Vorobyov, the governor of the Moscow region, said he was heading to the area and set up a task force to deal with the damage. He didn't immediately offer any further details.


Russian media reports said that riot police units were being sent to the area as people were being evacuated.

Russian authorities said security was tightened at Moscow's airports and railway stations, while the Moscow mayor cancelled all mass gatherings scheduled for the weekend.

White House National Security Advisor John Kirby said Friday that he couldn't yet speak about all the details but that "the images are just horrible. And just hard to watch."

"Our thoughts are going to be with the victims of this terrible, terrible shooting attack," Kirby said. "There are some moms and dads and brothers and sisters and sons and daughters who haven't gotten the news yet. This is going to be a tough day."


The attack followed a statement issued earlier this month by the U.S. Embassy in Moscow that urged the Americans to avoid crowded places in the Russian capital in view of an imminent attack, a warning that was repeated by several other Western embassies.

Russian President Vladimir Putin, who extended his grip on Russia for another six years in the March 15-17 presidential vote after a sweeping crackdown on dissent, earlier this week denounced the Western warnings as an attempt to intimidate Russians.

Russia was shaken by a series of deadly terror attacks in the early 2000s during the fighting with separatists in the Russian province of Chechnya.

In October 2002, Chechen militants took about 800 people hostage at a Moscow theater. Two days later, Russian special forces stormed the building and 129 hostages and 41 Chechen fighters died, most of them from effects of narcotic gas Russian forces use to subdue the attackers.

And in September 2004, about 30 Chechen militants seized a school in Beslan in southern Russia taking hundreds of hostages. The siege ended in a bloodbath two days later and more than 330 people, about half of them children, were killed.

 

[Rod1]

Yeah I get it. But what I’m saying is that it’s acceptable to proclaim these outlandish statements as long as it’s against a certain type of group / country / person with no backlash or finger pointing.

Outlandish is claiming a grandma who bakes pies is pushing drugs.

Its not as outlandish to claim an ex-con who used to deal drugs is dealing drugs again.

Remember in 1999 with the apartment bombings? they caught FSB guys planting bombs, police called, they detained them and all that jazz, then they get released and government claims it was just a drill and that the explosives were actually sugar.

Russia has a long history of using these kinds of things to kickstart a war, the fact that it coincides with the aftermath of the election and mobilization gives room to reasonable speculation.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Don't know what pro-shooting looks like but i saw the gopro footage of that guy that shot up a mosque and the walmart terrorist guy.

Neither were military but they shot straight, my guess is that its not hard to beat unarmed civilians with a semiauto.

it means tight short bursts, cohesive as a group, a certain posture....
i still can't figure out what that guy was shooting that made all the flash.

 

[Rod1]

it means tight short bursts, cohesive as a group, a certain posture....
i still can't figure out what that guy was shooting that made all the flash.

This doesn't necessarily means they are part of any government, ISIS does have trained militants.

 

[irish_thug]

I think the craziest part is they managed to escape.

That's fucked