The Weight Cutting Thread

This may be a stupid question (wouldn't be my first), but what are the medical reasons for switching to distilled water?
 
Not sure if epsom salts have been mentioned before but they work great for cutting weight for a few reasons.

1) The salt will draw water from you and also cause you to sweat out a little bit of water, but not to the point where you're dehydrated. You can lose a 1-3lbs off this.

2) It works as a mild laxative due to the magnesium that is absorbed. It'll help you go a little bit more, but again, not to the point of performance loss or being on the toilet for 2 hours.

3) The hot water from the epsom salt bath will heat up your core temperature and help you to sweat a little bit more.

4) The epsom salts will take care of any muscle soreness and help you relax and feel better. An epsom salt bath before bed is a great cure for any insomnia issues.

A natural laxative that works well and is also packed with health benefits and vitamins to keep you energized and feeling good is aloe vera juice.

Aloe vera juce and magnesium citrate together work as a great laxative and will aid in cutting weight if you need it.

Aloe Vera Juice Benefits
American Chronicle | Health Benefits Of Aloe Vera Juice
 
Looked through the thread and I cant seem to find the post that I was looking for. I remember someone suggesting that in the week or two before competition that you up the water intake to as much as two gallons a day, IN ADDITION to upping the sodium intake. The logic behind this was that the increased water and salt would make you urinate more often, and then you cut the water down to a little under a gallon per day the last few days before competition.

  1. Is my understanding correct that salt should be increased a week before the competition ?
  2. If so, how much should it be increased? Should I be adding a lot of salt to everything?
 
mschatz said:
Looked through the thread and I cant seem to find the post that I was looking for. I remember someone suggesting that in the week or two before competition that you up the water intake to as much as two gallons a day, IN ADDITION to upping the sodium intake. The logic behind this was that the increased water and salt would make you urinate more often, and then you cut the water down to a little under a gallon per day the last few days before competition.

  1. Is my understanding correct that salt should be increased a week before the competition ?
  2. If so, how much should it be increased? Should I be adding a lot of salt to everything?
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Ms:

I was just about to put this in your log, but I'll put it here instead.

Courtesy of our bud Finny (He summarized it quite nicely, IMO).

finnegan said:
The process is:
Drink a gallon of water a day, everyday.
5 days out from weigh in, start drinking three gallons of distilled water a day.
3 days out from weigh in, cut out carbohydrates (they bloat you up)
2 days out from weigh in, begin drinking Dandelion root or Bearberry Tea (mild diuretics)
1 day out, cut out all water and food. Put on some sweats. Light activity only.
Day of weigh in: No food, no water. You should be within, or at most 1-2 lbs of weight when you wake up. If not, you did something wrong. 1 hour of moderate exercise should take care of it. Go weigh in and rehydrate using a drink that has a 4:1 ratio of carbs to protein. Don't try to rehydrate all at once. Half a gallon the first hour, half a gallon
the second, etc until you are back to your 4 day out weight.
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I'd start adding sodium on "5 Days out". I think, what, 4000mg a day? Maybe a bit more?
 
Great summary! Thanks Dan.

2 questions though:

NO food for the entire day before the fight? Really?

Also, he doesnt mention upping the salt intake. I swear I heard that from someone on here. Am I crazy?
 
mschatz said:
Great summary! Thanks Dan.

2 questions though:

NO food for the entire day before the fight? Really?

Also, he doesnt mention upping the salt intake. I swear I heard that from someone on here. Am I crazy?
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Naw, Finn doesn't but like I said, i think 5 days out. When my sister did her figure competition, they have to do the same thing and that's what she did. She took her regular RDI of sodium and added, I believe, 30%. So it's it's 3000mg, you make 4000. I'll check with her.

I know it's not fighting, but those chicks have to dry out completely, so the idea is the same.

For me, I've never had to cut more than a few lbs, so I'd make a small blended protein shake with BCAA and greens and take a mulit-vit. The whole shake was maybe 1 cup. My last "cut" I was pretty much bang on so I ate some cottage cheese and some peanut butter too.
 
Centaur said:
Naw, Finn doesn't but like I said, i think 5 days out. When my sister did her figure competition, they have to do the same thing and that's what she did. She took her regular RDI of sodium and added, I believe, 30%. So it's it's 3000mg, you make 4000. I'll check with her.

I know it's not fighting, but those chicks have to dry out completely, so the idea is the same.

For me, I've never had to cut more than a few lbs, so I'd make a small blended protein shake with BCAA and greens and take a mulit-vit. The whole shake was maybe 1 cup. My last "cut" I was pretty much bang on so I ate some cottage cheese and some peanut butter too.
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Thanks for the help. Definitely interested in hearing what your sister has to say about the sodium intake.

Turns out that I may not have to get as scientific as I thought. Looks like a lot of the amateur fights they have here in the city are arranged before hand. So instead of just weighing in and then getting matched up the day of, you know who you will be fighting beforehand at a weight agreed upon. That could be good because instead of having to go 165 or all the way down to '52, its very possible to get fights at catch weights of '58 or '60. Thats VERY doable, and will be a lot less stressful than trying to get all the way down to the low 150's. To do that, I would definitely have to be doing the laxative/diuretic/weight cut thing, and thats scary if you have to fight an hour or two after weigh-in.
 
I have a grappling tournament on Saturday and can weigh in on Friday afternoon. I am 5'8", 144 right now. I've been following the rules on page 1 since Friday of last week. I'm down from 146-147. Is it reasonable to think that I am on track? I've never had to cut weight before. I am pretty lean and don't have a lot of body fat. :icon_conf
 
Well im guessing you know about suana suits...they are a gift from god! As a wrestler needing to cut weight all the time it gets simple. First, remember water is eight pounds a gallon. Think about that so if your really dedicated(and have a training partner incase you pass out from dehydration) Try to not drink that water and throw that suana suit on(this should only be done the day before or day of)...and if you have cotton mouth suck on an ice cube, but don't swallow any of the water. Next, if you still have about a pound to lose do the wrestling trick with some bubbleicuos bubble gum ;) The sugar in the gum will make your mouth salivate like hell, spit spit spit... it sounds dumb but i have filled up water bottles just from spit before. That alone is a couple of pounds.
Now for food, you'll lose more weight than not eating if you buy a power bar and cut it into fourths. Eat one fourth of the bar every three hours. THis keeps you stronger and more importantly, your ****bolism up.
Last when it comes to rehydrating you need to start off with sips of water so your body excepts the water.
 
I just want to vouch for the suggestions on the original page of this thread. By making healthy choices, in about 4 weeks I cut down from a consistent 192 to a solid 186. Then by doing as this thread suggests, I dropped weight to 178. Although I weighed in at 174, my teammates and I think the scale was off. And I have little body fat, so if I can do it anybody can do it!

I never got in over a gallon of water per day, and didn't incorporate any extra training besides BJJ class. OK, the day before I weighed in I jogged in a sauna suit for 20 minutes.

Needless to say, great advice given here!
 
bayer said:
Well im guessing you know about suana suits...they are a gift from god! As a wrestler needing to cut weight all the time it gets simple. First, remember water is eight pounds a gallon. Think about that so if your really dedicated(and have a training partner incase you pass out from dehydration) Try to not drink that water and throw that suana suit on(this should only be done the day before or day of)...and if you have cotton mouth suck on an ice cube, but don't swallow any of the water. Next, if you still have about a pound to lose do the wrestling trick with some bubbleicuos bubble gum ;) The sugar in the gum will make your mouth salivate like hell, spit spit spit... it sounds dumb but i have filled up water bottles just from spit before. That alone is a couple of pounds.
Now for food, you'll lose more weight than not eating if you buy a power bar and cut it into fourths. Eat one fourth of the bar every three hours. THis keeps you stronger and more importantly, your ****bolism up.
Last when it comes to rehydrating you need to start off with sips of water so your body excepts the water.
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Spitting FTW it's saved me a couple of times
 
I've got a question about taking a K suppliment to keep the potassium in your system as you really start to limit the amount of salt which will limit the effectiveness of the sodium potassium pump in your cells.
 
AZ_MMA said:
This may be a stupid question (wouldn't be my first), but what are the medical reasons for switching to distilled water?
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Blood is .09 percent Sodium chloride. (Saline solution) Hypotonic distilled water actually causes swelling of cells. Take away the water towards the end and the cells dump all there contents as they have no sodium to retain the water. Sodium is out of cells as potassium is pumped in take away the sodium and the cells will lose water far easier.

IT is actually really complex and I was writing exams earlier so my brain is mush and this is as good as I can discribe it right now.
 
I'm quite lean at 6'1 and 176lbs, i have a kickboxing match in 5 weeks and would like to make 165lbs.

I have to eat my oatmeal in the morning to give me energy throughout the day but i can cut out all other carbs except those gained from eating some fruit and veg.

So if i follow these ideas i should lose 2lbs per week and make the weight limit!?

I've never bothered to drop weight before, so this should be interesting.

Thanks
 
based off of the first post, wouldn't it be better to eat complex carbs with every meal because they are slow digesting, rather than fruits because fruits have simple natural sugars?
 
nice thread man..... i have to lose 8 pounds in a week for a bjj tournament.... im walking around at 198 and i have to make 190....... is this gonna be a difficult task? im gona do everything u said for the last week... any more tips?
 
I just want to be sure I'm doing this right. I need to drop 6-7 lbs and the it is a same day weigh in. I'm 5'7" 166. I'll have about 2-3 hours until I actually fight.

At 4 days out - no more carbs, start to lower calorie count, increase water intake to 2 gallons, and started taking metamucil 3 times a day (is this too soon?). As far as exercise - run in the morning and training in the evening.

At 2 days out - Keep diet and exercise the same but reduce water to 1 gallon for that day.

Day before - eat and drink as little as possible (like 500-600 calories). and stop eating 12 hours before weigh ins. no exercise at all.

Day of weigh in - (weigh in at 8 am) - just a little bit of water and if I have room to work with, maybe a small snack like a bagel. After the weigh in, I was going to eat a peanut butter and banana sandwich on wheat bread and drink a gatorade.

My main concern is that if I'm right on my weight the morning of the weigh in, I may not be able to drink any water or have a small snack. Will this hurt my strength and conditioning too much?

Any opinions would be appreciated.
 
im trying to make 199 lbs and im at 215 after meals and what not. i have 9 days till weigh ins do you think i can do it in time??
 
It might. Do lots of HIIT and LSD cardio, and be prepared to spend lots of time in the sauna the day of weigh-ins.
 
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