Unsigned Heavyweights - Thread Four

[The_Renaissance]

Vakhaev beat Goncharov, think it was a 4th round submission. Big win for him.

 

[carelessandheem]

Steven Banks 6-8 vs. Alex Simon 1-1 (300)
Karl Nickel 4-0 vs. Sebastian Herzberg 2-0
Charlie Milner 4-0 vs. Krzysztof Wisniewski 0-0
Shannon Ritch 57-89 vs. Aaron Brink 29-26
Ewerton Barbosa vs. Robson Brasil dual debut
Neilton da Costa vs. Erivelto de Oliveira dual debut
Ricardo Echarte 7-4 vs. Maikon Gustavo 2-14
Said Sowma 3-1 vs. Jermaine Barnes 3-2
Kirill Kornilov 3-0 vs. Edison Lopes 10-4
Caio Alencar 12-4 vs. Alison Vicente 25-17
Alan Vieira 3-4 vs. Danilo Marques 5-2 (most like HW or 200+ class of some kind)
Andrew Flores Smith 19-12 vs. Lucas Chiumiento 4-1-1
Mike Meade 0-0 vs. Edward Sponeybarger 1-1

vakheav is really good, sucks he will have to fight like 6 more times to have a flashy looking record

 

[original doom]

Vakhaev beat Goncharov, think it was a 4th round submission. Big win for him.

is something sus going on behind the scenes with vakhaev and his opposition ?

 

[The_Renaissance]

is something sus going on behind the scenes with vakhaev and his opposition ?

I've heard this mentioned in this thread before, what's the deal with this? Is Vakhaev dodgy?

 

[original doom]

I've heard this mentioned in this thread before, what's the deal with this? Is Vakhaev dodgy?

i havent read it before ive just wondered thats all.

 

[carelessandheem]

Jenario Augusto 1-0 vs. Johnson Bacelar 2-1
Trevor Wallace 0-0 vs. Anthony Daugherty 0-2
Justin Richwine 1-4 vs. Charles Philpot 1-0
Stephan Puetz 18-4 vs. Ruben Wolf 12-10
Vernon Lewis 7-4 vs. Austen Lane 6-2
Alexandr Cverna 7-2 vs. Martin Horský 1-0
Robert Voves 0-1 vs. Yevgeny Orlov 2-1

 

[The_Renaissance]

Nothing of interest really, Austen Lane's chin has been proven to be iffy so no interest in him as a prospect.

 

[carelessandheem]

Jared Vanderaa 11-4 vs. Tony Lopez 65-34
Chris Larsen 5-1 vs. Grayson Wells 5-3
Marijo Alilovic 1-0 vs. Luka Kolorov 0-0
John Clay 0-4 vs. Sebastian Storm 2-0
Blake Troop 8-6 vs. Michael Quintero 6-2
Kyle Francotti 1-1 vs. Austin Smith 0-1
Matt Mitrione 13-7 vs. Ronny Markes 19-7
Kamil Kałduński 0-2 vs. Szymon Wrzesień 1-0
Dritan Barjamaj 17-19 vs. Júnior Albini 14-6
Piotr Witczak 0-4 vs. John Painter 1-12
Nicky Lee 0-0 vs. Hugo Kirkwood 0-1

this week aint much better

 

[The_Renaissance]

Mohammed Usman signs with PFL, then.

Mo' Money, Mo' Usman.

 

[Ronda.Jones.genetics]

Jared Vanderaa 11-4 vs. Tony Lopez 65-34
Chris Larsen 5-1 vs. Grayson Wells 5-3
Marijo Alilovic 1-0 vs. Luka Kolorov 0-0
John Clay 0-4 vs. Sebastian Storm 2-0
Blake Troop 8-6 vs. Michael Quintero 6-2
Kyle Francotti 1-1 vs. Austin Smith 0-1
Matt Mitrione 13-7 vs. Ronny Markes 19-7
Kamil Kałduński 0-2 vs. Szymon Wrzesień 1-0
Dritan Barjamaj 17-19 vs. Júnior Albini 14-6
Piotr Witczak 0-4 vs. John Painter 1-12
Nicky Lee 0-0 vs. Hugo Kirkwood 0-1

this week aint much better

How often has Quintero retired by now?
Feels like he retires after every fight and comes back 2 months later.

 

[Koniradi98]

Vanderaa fighting Lopez again ?
And isn't he still the EFC HW champ? If he would defend his title 1 or 2 more times, he surely would get the UFC call sooner, than with fighting the likes of Tony Lopez on regional shows.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Vanderaa fighting Lopez again ?
And isn't he still the EFC HW champ? If he would defend his title 1 or 2 more times, he surely would get the UFC call sooner, than with fighting the likes of Tony Lopez on regional shows.

Vanderaa is harming his career fighting at HW in my opinion. He's not bad, but he's a 205lb'er and fighting at HW is damaging his potential.

 

[carelessandheem]

Sergey Alekseevich 5-3 vs. Shamil Abasov 5-2

maybe?

 

[vkram]

Question for you MMA HW aficionado's, is the division beginning to look like it's entering a great era?

Like, maybe something like a 1990's Boxing HW era?

I see guys like Ngannou, Blaydes, Jairzinho, Gane, Pavlovic etc. seems like it's turning into a very healthy young division.

Also, bonus question: How much does a HW like Ngannou make per fight?

I'm not sure about it being the golden era but I agree that the division is improving. There are finally younger heavyweights who seem capable of taking over when the current elite calls it a day.

Ngannou was on 120k/120k for the JDS fight.

 

[carelessandheem]

Marcin Najman 2-4 vs. Piotr Piechowiak 0-0 ?

 

[careto]

Question for you MMA HW aficionado's, is the division beginning to look like it's entering a great era?

Like, maybe something like a 1990's Boxing HW era?

I see guys like Ngannou, Blaydes, Jairzinho, Gane, Pavlovic etc. seems like it's turning into a very healthy young division.

Also, bonus question: How much does a HW like Ngannou make per fight?

Ngannou is 33, Jairzinho is 32, Gane is 30. I wouldnt call it particularly young, if anything Blades (29) and Pavlovich are somewhat young (27). So I think its a stretch to compare it to 90s HW Boxing (Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Foreman, Moorer, Riddick Bowe, Golota, Klitchko, Tua). Although it is a very good batch of HWs, though.
I would be concerned if Ngannou beats Jairzinho but loses to Stipe again; this would leave the division ina weird spot.

 

[FatMoiMoi]

Ngannou is 33, Jairzinho is 32, Gane is 30. I wouldnt call it particularly young, if anything Blades (29) and Pavlovich are somewhat young (27). So I think its a stretch to compare it to 90s HW Boxing (Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Foreman, Moorer, Riddick Bowe, Golota, Klitchko, Tua). Although it is a very good batch of HWs, though.
I would be concerned if Ngannou beats Jairzinho but loses to Stipe again; this would leave the division ina weird spot.

For me the golden age is still Pride with Fedor, Big Nog, Cro Cop, Kharitonov, Barnett, Werdum etc. but to be honest I came to MMA after it had all finished. Still seems like that was the period with the best heavyweight division

 

[careto]

For me the golden age is still Pride with Fedor, Big Nog, Cro Cop, Kharitonov, Barnett, Werdum etc. but to be honest I came to MMA after it had all finished. Still seems like that was the period with the best heavyweight division

Yeah, I agree and you can add to that list Hunt, Aleksander, and Schilt. Its just a shame PRIDE's matchmaking was very erratic back in those days. There are many match ups we never got to see. Sergei vs Crocop, Sergei vs Hunt, Hunt vs Schilt, Aleksander vs Big Nog, Werdum vs Barnett, Barnett vs Fedor, Fedor vs Sergei, Aleksander vs Schilt, etc

 

[executionermma]

Yeah, I agree and you can add to that list Hunt, Aleksander, and Schilt. Its just a shame PRIDE's matchmaking was very erratic back in those days. There are many match ups we never got to see. Sergei vs Crocop, Sergei vs Hunt, Hunt vs Schilt, Aleksander vs Big Nog, Werdum vs Barnett, Barnett vs Fedor, Fedor vs Sergei, Aleksander vs Schilt, etc

at least Hunt vs. Schilt happened in K1

 

[careto]

at least Hunt vs. Schilt happened in K1

True, I had forgotten about this one. Had Schilt worked on his TDD he would have been a force a to be reckoned with.