Do you think prime Fedor would be able to compete in the octagon?

[Greco_Wiz]

Too bad Nog and Fedor didn't have the "help" that Hendo and "The Not Natural" Couture had.


Please, elaborate slow-ass Randy's path to victory against Fedor so I can laugh at your wrestler bias.

If you can’t see a possible route to victory for Randy against Fedor in a cage, it’s not worth explaining it to you.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

If you can’t see a possible route to victory for Randy against Fedor in a cage, it’s not worth explaining it to you.

You're really overestimating Randy's clinch and dirty boxing.

There couldn't be an easier fight for Fedor at heavyweight.

But what do I know, I'm not biased for overrated wrestlers. You probably thought Chael would grind Fedor.

 

[Fluffernutter]

Octagon Fedor loses to Lindland

 

[chuckleknuckle]

I've always thought Fedor got lazy and didn' t train the same later in his career. He stopped working his ground game almost entirely and became nothing more than a head-hunter. At the heavier weight classes that's often a kill or be killed proposition. He's gotten killed enough times now that his chin is shot and he had a good chin in Pride.

In my opinion, Fedor's last great fight was against Tim Sylvia way back in 2008. Even in the highlight reel KO's that followed that against Arlovski and Rogers, Fedor looked very hittable. I think the fact that Arlovski is still a top 10 HW shows prime Fedor would still be competitive. Andre sure the hell isn't the best version of himself nowadays either..

He used to fight in the world sambo championships and trained with guys like Ernesto Hoost at Golden Glory in Holland as well as at Russian Top Team and Red Devil. He then stopped sambo and moved to Stary Oskol to train with Kiril Sidelnikov.

His quality of training went way down hill.

 

[JustBleed69]

I noticed that when he fought in a cage he didn’t really seem like the same fighter. He’s an all time great with some badass moments but my head tells me he would get demolished fighting DC,Stipe, Ngannou or even a “meh” guy like Curtis Blaydes or Derrick Lewis

that doesn’t take away from how good he is btw. I just feel like compared to back then the overall landscape of HW is a tad bit deeper and more difficult to deal with compared to back then.

He would likely have some success but not be quite as dominant. Cro Cop was a shell of his former self in the Octagon vs Ring.

 

[Fight Professor]

A hungry, non-religious Fedor would have definitely adapted his game for the Octagon and would have been a top, but probably not an undefeated, fighter. Any other version have would been mediocre.

 

[Taric]

How many of those years was he in a cage?
Learn to read the OP and stay on topic.

There is literally nothing in Fedor's style of fighting, both offensively and defensively, that would make a difference between him fighting in a cage or in a ring. Fedor has a strong clinch game and he never utilized pinning fighters in the corner of the ring through striking.

 

[Iron Wolf]

I've been watching combat sports for over 20 years now, and I'd make 2003-2005 Fedor Emelianenko the betting favorite against anyone from any era, period.

I've been watching for 27 years. I directly participated for 9 years. I 100% agree with you.

 

[Iron Wolf]

The moronity in this forum knows no bounds. By the time either them got to the UFC, they had aged and had a lot of mileage/fights. Fighters wear down and fade away. It is just fact.

Also, in reference to some of the other moronic statements on this thread, the HW division has digressed. Look at your top competition... Ngannou is on everyone's mind as the next champ but he is basically a smaller Hong Man Choi. I like Stipe and DC but neither are multi-dimensional. In fact, a prime Randleman or Marco Coleman would run roughshod through today's competition, cage or no cage.

Lastly, however, Sherdog is famous for judging guys' careers based on their last fights, ala BJ Penn. Is normal, eapecially for morons.

Exactly... Look at that post where a sherdogger posted the .gifs of the best moments from DC vs Stipe II beside Fedor vs. Cro Cop. It was absolutely laughable. The speed, explosiveness and skill in Fedor vs. Cro Cop made DC and Stipe look like plodding, drunken amateurs.

This idea that Heavyweight has evolved in the past 10-15 years is simply false.

 

[empsim]

Of course, he could even become champ. I doubt he'd have his crazy win streak though.

 

[Hotora86]

"At the time" being the key word.

Pride folded 13 years ago. Fedor kept fighting.

...and kept winning for a number of years still.

 

[Claude]

Have you seen the current HW division?

Piece of cake.

 

[moreorless87]

You're really overestimating Randy's clinch and dirty boxing.

There couldn't be an easier fight for Fedor at heavyweight.

But what do I know, I'm not biased for overrated wrestlers. You probably thought Chael would grind Fedor.

Even in deep deep decline I think its clear Fedor is very difficult to "grind", he's willing to take risks to stop it happening and its up to an opponent to threaten him.

When it was hyped around 07/08 I personally think Randy would have had little chance, probably the easiest fight for Fedor in the HW top 10 at that point.

 

[AssassinFacedBaby]

So which of Buentello or Eilers would have beaten Fedor? If you can answer that I'll pay double the asking price for your bridge.

Buentello had a punchers chance but nothing else, Eilers chances were slim to none

 

[markg171]

Also, in reference to some of the other moronic statements on this thread, the HW division has digressed. Look at your top competition... Ngannou is on everyone's mind as the next champ but he is basically a smaller Hong Man Choi.

Never analyze MMA again with such a moronic statement.

 

[Entram]

Anyone who doesn't think Prime Fedor could be top 10 has never watched Prime Fedor.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

Even in deep deep decline I think its clear Fedor is very difficult to "grind", he's willing to take risks to stop it happening and its up to an opponent to threaten him.

When it was hyped around 07/08 I personally think Randy would have had little chance, probably the easiest fight for Fedor in the HW top 10 at that point.

I'm in complete agreement.

 

[Istryker]

Absolutely yes, Fedor in his prime was so fast for HW, he would smash many of the UFC HW's. He beat Sylvia in like 30 seconds, and Sylvia is the best UFC HW ever, not Stipe. Sylvia was only let go because he beat the undefeated Vera at the time who was Dana's new love and Dana was furious that Sylvia destroyed the hype.

No. Sylvia isn’t the best UFC HW goofy

 

[ermac88]

He and Cro Cop have a terrible record in the cage for a reason

It makes a big difference

Sanctioned unscripted fights?

 

[gono btw]

Sanctioned unscripted fights?

Which scripted ones besides the obvious Takada ones, exactly?