Prime Fedor vs Ngannou

TheScorpionDude said:
Kettlebell Fedor is the absolute GOAT.

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Also, please, wait for Ngannou to beat anyone relevant before you proclaim him the GOAT... he just beat a nobody, and before that he beat a couple of WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over the hill fighters.

And before that ?

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That's right, there are no Ngannou vs Lewis gifs on Google.... if that your God ?
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Curtis Blaydes destroys any man who ever fought in Pride.
 
Fedor’s footwork made him a master of staying out of range and being able to attack and get back out of danger
 
BFoe said:
I mean, the Jon Jones who eked out razor thin decisions against Santos and Reyes is exactly the same fighter who brutalized Shogun and left Machida laying, right?
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You cannot think of another reason as to why he had a huge drop off in performance other than age?
 
In this thread are a bunch of Pride nostalgists saying Fedor KOs or drops Francis and armbars him, even though not one of those 3 scenarios has ever happened to Francis.

Another sub 1 minute KO from Francis, and the Pride nostalgists saying Fedor wasn't in his prime.
 
Rampage_Jackson said:
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sometimes. Curtis Blaydes sucks and if you think he would beat Fedor I hate you and everything you stand for. no offense
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Wuality analysis.

Blaydes isn't a roided up 190 pounder liks Coldman and Randleman lol. He also probably trains a little sub defense too lmao.

He'd brutalize Fedor far worse than Bigfoot.
 
MartinGibson86 said:
Wuality analysis.

Blaydes isn't a roided up 190 pounder liks Coldman and Randleman lol. He also probably trains a little sub defense too lmao.

He'd brutalize Fedor far worse than Bigfoot.
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Wuality

bruv

you can't shit on my typeo and then do that

you fuck

you fucking fuck

This "debate" is nothing so I'm not here to provide any wuality analysis. Not that you have either, bub.
 
Rampage_Jackson said:
Wuality

bruv

you can't shit on my typeo and then do that

you fuck

you fucking fuck

This "debate" is nothing so I'm not here to provide any wuality analysis. Not that you have either, bub.
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typo's aren't the same as incoherent dribble lol
 
Goon Dog said:
Fedor was overrated. The Pride fights were fixed. The competition just wasn't that good.

It's actually funny how this has become accepted history for a lot of people just because it somehow became cool to say it. The fact is that Fedor was a monster at all phases of the game. His trips were fucking artwork and he had the best gnp in the history of the game. Period. He generated more torque with punches in his opponents guard than anyone I've ever seen. He didn't need to pass. Francis his hard. Really hard. But Prime Fedor badly exposes holes in his game and takes him down and pounds him out.
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Not to mention Pride fighters were making a splash in the ufc up until recently. One of Ngannu's biggest wins is Overeem ffs.
 
The Fedor ignorance is funny. In the first 7 years of Fedor's career he fought almost 30 times, and his only loss wasn't really a loss. Longest reigning lineal champ ever. Nobody has been able to replicate this at HW, that is why the answer to these anybody vs Fedor threads will always be Fedor.

Ngannou has barely fought more than half that many times in his 7 year career, and has 5 wins against complete scrubs, 3 losses, 1 loss to Derek Lewis.
 
Fedor doesn't have the wrestling to take him down. He doesn't have the boxing to stand with him. Ngannou KOs him in under 30 seconds.
 
thewilks said:
The Fedor ignorance is funny. In the first 7 years of Fedor's career he fought almost 30 times, and his only loss wasn't really a loss. Longest reigning lineal champ ever. Nobody has been able to replicate this at HW, that is why the answer to these anybody vs Fedor threads will always be Fedor.

Ngannou has barely fought more than half that many times in his 7 year career, and has 5 wins against complete scrubs, 3 losses, 1 loss to Derek Lewis.
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Fedors win streak is littered with bums, freakshow fights, and glorified gatekeepers. He fought 1 legit opponent for 3 mediocre ones.
 
ClosetVitorFan said:
Idk, lets see how Ngannou does against a DC, (black fedor) or Sipe again. Then I can answer more honestly,
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He he does against Stipe and DC is irrelevant to how he would do against Fedor because both Stipe and DC are considerably better than Fedor ever was.
 
Prime Fedor didn't brawl. I think he sambos him and gets the arm bar. Late in his career Fedor that fell in love with the KO, it wouldn't be pretty.
 
2005 Fedor, because he can clinch, grapple, and strike.

Same reason Stipe and DC do well against Francis. They don't throw leg kicks while backing up from a flurry. They are capable of clinching or taking down overzealous bum rushers. In addition, their polished striking allows them to beat opponents up on the feet.

Francis is a very effective fighter, no doubt. On any given night he could put anyone's lights out. But that doesn't mean he can't lose, or that he's the best ever.
 
2005 Fedor, because he can clinch, grapple, and strike.

Same reason Stipe and DC do well against Francis. They don't throw leg kicks while backing up from a flurry. They are capable of clinching or taking down overzealous bum rushers. In addition, their polished striking allows them to beat opponents up on the feet.

Francis is a very effective fighter, no doubt. On any given night he could put anyone's lights out. But that doesn't mean he can't lose, or that he's the best ever.
 
Striker Fox said:
When Ngannou is past his prime 32 fights into his career like Fedor was, then we can talk about the mediocre or sub par fighters Ngannou will have trouble with....... Oh wait, he's already lost to one!

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Ngannou is taking advantage of guys way past their prime, with shot chins, who should be retired, or other guys like Rozenstruk and Blaydes, who have also made a name for themselves from beating the same guys.

Ngannou couldn't KO the first legit opponent he faced. Obviously he's always got that punchers chance though.
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Uhhh...didn't that "legit opponent" get his ass kicked by one of those past prime guys that you're saying shouldn't really count on Ngannou's record.


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The XL said:
Fedors win streak is littered with bums, freakshow fights, and glorified gatekeepers. He fought 1 legit opponent for 3 mediocre ones.
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Would you hold him in higher regard if he didn't fight 30 times, on average 4-5 times per year, and only beat Sylvia, Arlovski, Nog, Coleman, Hunt, Crocop, Schilt, Randleman, and Arona?
 
The XL said:
Fedors win streak is littered with bums, freakshow fights, and glorified gatekeepers. He fought 1 legit opponent for 3 mediocre ones.
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That's not true at all. You are speaking nonsense.

Only one heavyweight has more ranked wins than Fedor and that is Nog, who Fedor beat twice.

Fedor also has won three major tournaments that were stacked with great fighters.

Fedor has lightyears more quality wins than Ngannou.
 
Ngannour picks Fedor apart with superior technical boxing, avoids the obsolete looping punch-based style from the early 2000s, and gets the late KO in the third round.
 
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