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Cena is CIA. He has to play the part.
No longer communist is debatable. Less communist is objectively true and it's laughable for you to deny that fact. They rose to power as the Communist Party and they rule under that name. But they're widely considered to be communist in name only for good reason. And that's why capitalist countries and corporations are doing TONS of business over there. Not an actual communist country like Cuba.Reality Check - Every corporation that is created in China is created by the CPP for the interests of the CPP, and all entrepreneurs must seek permission from the CPP to create a business and would be shut down if they ever grew so large they could challenge a CPP corporation.
And you think this makes them no longer communist? Show me where between Mao and now when they embraced human rights for all of their citizens.
How about when they plan to have free and open election again?
No longer communist is debatable.
Less communist is objectively true and it's laughable for you to deny that fact.
They rose to power as the Communist Party and they rule under that name.
But they're widely considered to be communist in name only for good reason.
And that's why capitalist countries and corporations are doing TONS of business over there.
Not an actual communist country like Cuba.
Don't want to bother unpacking and correcting all of this bullshit...But still communist.
You're grasping at straws here and you know it.
At least you know what CPP stands for. Wonder how they'd respond to a white westerner saying 'Ya really aren't as communist as you used to be.'
According to whom? And how many is 'widely?'
*Low tariffs.
*Lower National Taxes
*Practically slave-cheap labor costs.
*No unions.
*Practically no regulations.
So they're communists that like money, and they've learned that money buys power and influence across the world with corporations and governments, which expands their power far beyond their own borders.
They're still as communistic as they ever have been, they've just not as retarded as the Un family or Castros.
See above.
Don't want to bother unpacking and correcting all of this bullshit...
Let me just correct one thing and state that I'm not a white Westerner, I'm a half white Westerner who no one would mistake for white in real life. Not that I think my race or your race or anyone else's race or color should matter, but I figured I'd point that out.
I'll try to keep in mind that you're not a bad person overall and we've had some good interactions in the past and hopefully still will in some regards. But please don't tag me back to this thread if it's just going to be your usual style of bad faith attacks and that type of crap.
Do you not have any liberals or leftists in your family or friends or coworkers or acquaintances? Can you not discuss these things civilly and fairly in real life? Not sure why you've adopted this online persona with regard to politics. You're a cool guy on other topics, so not sure why you can't be cool on political issues as well...
There's a lot to unpack here and I have to pushback on the claim that I attacked first, but anyway...Your race/s don't matter to me whatsoever.
But it would to the CPP representative you'd attempt to correct them that they are not communist.
They're racist as fuck.
I wasn't the one that attacked first.
I'm a counter-puncher.
I have a friend who's a Pakistani muslim and he immigrated here in 2004, graduated top of his class here at WSU as a business major, and one of the most book-smart people I have ever met. He believed everything he saw on CNN and John Stewart about Bush and Obama, had the most severe case of TDS I had ever seen with my own eyes. I've actually learned alot from him about the geo-political climate in the middle-east, China, Russia, and Pakistan. Interesting shit.
I've been discussing politics with him on a monthly basis over cigars and drinks, and its been hilarious watching how he has gone from "Trump is the worst person in the world because of his tweets' to 'Oh my fucking god have the Biden and Democrats lost their fucking minds?'
Especially over the Wuhan Virus Lab story over the last 48 hours. He told me a year ago that it wasn't true because factcheck.org said it wasn't true. No matter what I said about the mountains of evidence it was leaked from the Wuhan lab be basically replied with 'That is not true because CNN hasn't reported it.'
Now he's saying 'You were right! They lied to the public! Why?' And I replied "Corporate media main function is to mislead the public into electing leftist politicians, and they wanted Trump to lose and Biden to win. Trump said the virus was released from the Wuhan lab, and that's in opposition to the media's narrative that Trump is to blame for every Covid death in America, so Trump must be lying. Now Trump is gone, Biden is in, and the truth is coming out that Trump was right, the media and fact-checkers were lying, but that doesn't matter because Biden his China's cockholster and nothing will ever be done to hold them accountable for releasing a virus that killed 3 million people and wrecked the world's economy."
For the first time in 10 years, he didn't have anything to say.
Oh, by the way, as far left as he is he's always referred to China as communist.
At best, China let a man made virus slip out of a lab in Wuhan. At worst, they committed an act of bioterrorism that disproportionately affected the United States, India, Brazil and other countries and they should pay for their crimes. At the very least, I want this to be fairly and thoroughly investigated and subject to international law and sanctions.
If we're talking about a person struggling to make ends meet or who is otherwise precarious financially then yes $50 can mean a lot and I understand being a bit PC to protect your livelihood but John Cena is worth ~$60 million, he's not going to go hungry or homeless if he takes a moral stand here.
Weird to see Lefty posters coming to Cena's defense but whatever.
Because there are hardly ever any reason and logic based discussions when it comes to China.
It's just a bunch of people screaming "Fuck China. Fuck Communism. Fuck the CCP. "
The faux outrage has little to do with the actual actions of China, and more to do with finding a way to shit on the left, Hollywood, and Communism.
A lot of Americans act like China is the embodiment of evil, and it's a childish way to understand or discuss China and the politics surrounding it.
Cena is getting shit on for basically not saying "Fuck you, China".
What do the Uighuars, Tibetans, and Communism have to do with this particular issue ?
The Chinese government claims that Taiwan is part of their territory. A famous and popular American performer/actor made a public statement that contradicts their claim.
Obviously, China was going to say something about it....just like any other nation would if there was some kind of internal land dispute going on. If Texas or Hawaii were seriously wanting to break off from the US, claimed their sovereignty, and then another foreign public figure backed that claim, what would be the likely response of America?
People just want Cena to criticize China, and to not do anything that could potentially help them or their economy.....and they demand this from their made in China iPhones while sitting on their Made in China computer chairs and desks.
I think the American/Western hypocrisy and xenophobia is what some of the leftys have issue with.
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Cena is defending the Chinese nationalists. Considering what Han Chinese nationalism is doing to its minorities, it is quite reasonable to shit on Cena for only thinking about his fame and money.
He shit on Taiwan by kowtowing to China. So why shouldn't he get shit on? He has no problem shitting on Taiwan because their market is not remotely as big as China's market. At the end of the day he is selfish and greedy. If we can shit on corporations from acting in an immoral or amoral manner, why shouldn't we do the same for celebrities?