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Ali was already sick when he started fading his trainers noticed changes, Lenox just got caught and his resume speaks for itself he's top 10, top 5 greatest heavyweights ever, Tyson got out boxed and had terrible trainers not his original trainers plus he was out of control once his family his trainers couldn't keep watch over him, he's basically a street thug gangster and had emotional problems probably depression drugs use and personal problems but he came back won a title but lost to fighters he couldn't beat like Holyfield, Tyson could never beat Evander and if Buster Douglas took his talent seriously Tyson couldn't touch him maybe not even Evander Douglas was that skillful but lacked dedication and confidence. Foreman bounced back after his humiliating loss to Ali and became a smarter fighter at an older age.
Well done. You’ve come up with lots of excuses for these fighters. In reality, guys have off days and sometimes lose fights. How many great HWs lost to fighters they were expected to beat? Almost all of them
I’m a huge Lennox Lewis fan so I can’t understand how you can just brush off his 2 losses, to bang average opponents, but then refer to his resume. Laughable double standards, you must be able to see that. You can’t have it both ways
Joshua only got caught knocked down got up and didn't adjust by boxing a moving he had the reach advantage and size a minor adjustment gets him the win but he's not a thinking adjusting fighter unlike others, Ruiz also got dropped but this didn't stop him from winning the title.
couldnt adjust? You do know they fought for a second time don’t you? And how do you make mid fight adjustments when you are clearly concussed from the first knockdown?? You’re in survival mode in the hope you can get your head clear.
Once again you are clearly judging other HWs different to Joshua. Joshua couldn’t adjust, but you have a long list of excuses for the other guys, who also couldn’t adjust
I am only giving his rank right now, I never said Joshua couldn't climb the ranks to top 20, I highly doubt anybody after his career will rank Joshua top ten all time maybe top 15, if Joshua beats Fury twice or three times then beats Wilder then cleans out the division and is champion until he's 40, going undefeated after his only loss.
his (imaginary) p4p rank is completely irrelevant as he’s maybe less than half way through his career. If he goes undefeated until he’s 40, that means he’s cleared the division out multiple times, been a world champ for nearly 15 years, and would almost certainly have been undisputed for some of that time. That’s gets him in the top 15. Lol, come on dude. I mean that’s not gonna happen but if it did, he would without doubt be in the top 10, and towards the pointy end of it. He would be the most successful HW of all time by a long way. It would be a phenomenal career
Everyone is expecting Fury to outbox Joshua easily, then the rematch, maybe Joshua gets one win, but it's unlikely that he beats Fury twice or three times, but that happens he's climbing the rankings to top 15 book it, but right now he's top 30.
everyone’s expecting fury to outbox Joshua? I’m sure his die hards agree with you. I’m a fan of both and have it as a close fight as did a lot of ex pros, leading up to their supposed fight. In reality they may never fight, the chance may be gone. But if they do the odds will be close for a reason
this is the problem with p4p, fans are so biased. Whether that bias is towards a certain fighter or against another. You’ve said it yourself, if Joshua is a unified and undisputed champion for nearly a decade and a half, and only losses 1 fight (which he immediately avenged), you still couldn’t put him in your top 10. You must be able to see how unbalanced that view is.
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