News Gegard Mousasi to defend title vs. John Salter at Bellator 264, Aug. 13

Mousasi - 240
Vettori +200

..maybe MAYBE A tad less due to UFC bias.

Mousasi finishes marvin by stoppage . Gegard still one of the top 3 middles in world and who knows where in pecking order of 3.

What has marvin exactly done. I appreciate your wordy post but if u think vettori tskes down mousasi and either keeps him there or puts this damage on him , lol , please.

The BMMA middle division isnt impressive by any means but outside izz& rob - neither is todays UFC.

Gegards time will come ( as he said hinself) where he wont be a top middle in world but at 36, still going strong....which is crazy.

His post presser looks the same ( his physical features ) as it did before he hit 30. It doesnt even make sense.
I mean, it's impossible to discuss with you because you know nothing about the UFC and you know very little about Bellator the only thing you know about is Gegard. It doesn't sound like you've seen Vettori fight, and it doesn't sound like you've seen Vanderford fight, and it certainly doesn't sound like you've seen the other members of the UFC's MW division fight. Neither are you an unbiased party. I discussed Vettori's weaknesses and strengths evenhandedly and why he might succeed and why he might struggle. You can't do that because your only feedback to any conversation is "Gegard god, everyone else peasant."

And there are a lot of guys on the worldwide boards who probably have the right to call people casuals because they watch every Bellator event, every UFC event, and a lot of regional events. You seem to only resurface once a year when Gegard fights, who do you have the right to call a casual? Will you even watch this coming weekend's card?

I also know little about mr. Vanzant. Hes undefeated but hasnt had much fights. On paper, Salter " should" be the tougher fight because hes a southpaw and his right hand is actually his dominant hand. This makes the entrance of Gegards striking a bit tricky but he had no respect for Salters striking in general.

Vanderford much quicker from what I have seen. I really cant say too much more except Mousasi flattens the guys that have taken vanderford to a decision.

Gegard continues to be in a lose lose situation in BMMA so the casuals just wont give mousasi credit . I thought he beat Lovato which would make him 12 out of 12 spanning back to UFC where he flattened all 7 men on his final 8 fight contract.
Salter is not the tougher opponent in reality or on paper. Edwards is a better grappler than Van Steenis and Vanderford held down Edwards for 3 rounds without tiring, while Salter faded after a round and a half of holding down Van Steenis. On paper he's 36, and his 3 most recent wins are very comparable to the quality of Vanderford's last 3 wins, just older. It really does not matter who has what handedness because Salter as a practical matter never strikes with anyone anyways, the fact that he tagged Mousasi was hilarious but unconsequential. Whether either beats Mousasi is questionable but Vanderford would beat Salter. In fact I think, if Salter doesn't retire which I think he should, Bellator may start feeding him down the row of prospects. He's a pretty reliable win for a lot of the wrestling based prospects because he will struggle to take them down and keep them down and they can piece him up on the feet or turn and smash him on the ground.

And I'm sorry you think that way but even Gegard owned up to that loss and the rest of world has moved on without contesting it much. This is also neither here nor there but the grammatical structure "he flattened all 7 of 8", I think you missed the meaning of the word all... He will fight Vanderford when the time comes, and he will be the favorite, and we will watch that fight. If he wants to go to the UFC afterwards and vindicate you, escape this "lose lose situation", that's his decision, for now he fights Vanderford.
 
He lost a close decision to Shoeface a few years ago. He's improved a lot since then though and from memory of that fight I think he would have won a 5 rounder at the time anyway.

Not sure about Shoeface and Lovato in straight grappling. Those are two high level grapplers.
I still don't understand what you're seeing in Vettori lol

Typical average fighter without any elite wins on his resume. He's not great at anything really
 
Lovato is way outside the realm of Shoeface or Vettori's level of grappling, IMO.
Lovato is definitely the better jiu jitsu guy but I think in the modern game subs that aren't preceded by damage are hard to come by anyways, which is what is making BJJ based gameplans hard to run, so even if he's the better jiu jitsu guy it ultimately means little as far as finishing the fight. But he can ostensibly still hold people down, he's very strong some (like Gegard) would argue too strong.
 
Any indication of what his plans are?
From interviews that I've seen Shlemenko and Koreshkov kinda dodged that question. Shlemenko was like -- look at me, I was like "oh I need to get out of Bellator, left and look where am I now. You overthinks/overplans, became less focused and look past your opponents.".
 
I mean, it's impossible to discuss with you because you know nothing about the UFC and you know very little about Bellator the only thing you know about is Gegard. It doesn't sound like you've seen Vettori fight, and it doesn't sound like you've seen Vanderford fight, and it certainly doesn't sound like you've seen the other members of the UFC's MW division fight. Neither are you an unbiased party. I discussed Vettori's weaknesses and strengths evenhandedly and why he might succeed and why he might struggle. You can't do that because your only feedback to any conversation is "Gegard god, everyone else peasant."

And there are a lot of guys on the worldwide boards who probably have the right to call people casuals because they watch every Bellator event, every UFC event, and a lot of regional events. You seem to only resurface once a year when Gegard fights, who do you have the right to call a casual? Will you even watch this coming weekend's card?


Salter is not the tougher opponent in reality or on paper. Edwards is a better grappler than Van Steenis and Vanderford held down Edwards for 3 rounds without tiring, while Salter faded after a round and a half of holding down Van Steenis. On paper he's 36, and his 3 most recent wins are very comparable to the quality of Vanderford's last 3 wins, just older. It really does not matter who has what handedness because Salter as a practical matter never strikes with anyone anyways, the fact that he tagged Mousasi was hilarious but unconsequential. Whether either beats Mousasi is questionable but Vanderford would beat Salter. In fact I think, if Salter doesn't retire which I think he should, Bellator may start feeding him down the row of prospects. He's a pretty reliable win for a lot of the wrestling based prospects because he will struggle to take them down and keep them down and they can piece him up on the feet or turn and smash him on the ground.

And I'm sorry you think that way but even Gegard owned up to that loss and the rest of world has moved on without contesting it much. This is also neither here nor there but the grammatical structure "he flattened all 7 of 8", I think you missed the meaning of the word all... He will fight Vanderford when the time comes, and he will be the favorite, and we will watch that fight. If he wants to go to the UFC afterwards and vindicate you, escape this "lose lose situation", that's his decision, for now he fights Vanderford.
I disregarded your whole post on your baseless comments about me . You want to get into " x' s and o's with me pal ?

I , admittedly , have a bias towards mousasi but that doesn't make my statements/ opinions ring false.

I'm more on top of the UFC then Bellator and I've been into this stuff since 99' ( in more ways than one).
You seem to have a ultra healthy opinion of Marvin Vettori .

If you cant acknowledge the lack of depth of UFC s 185 division ( this has nothing to do with BMMA) then, lol, I dont know what to tell u.

It's funny how the first several pages of this thread are Salter by sub filled and his unbelievable finish rate as i laughed and said gegard is his equal on the ground but acknowledged that Salter no joke.

On paper, Gegard did have some things to worry about but as the fight unfolded - mousasi had little to worry about. I see uneducated fools calling mousasi flat in the 1st round. It's a 5 round title fight and Salter did everything in his power to get in position which he FAILED. He seated mousasi with gegard back to the cage and being careful and not expending much energy until he got to feet and landed 7-8 knees and 4 of them crashed John to his knees. I knew the fight was over at that point.

I dont consider marvin better in anything opposed to prime chris and believe it or not , mousasi is not that far removed from that version of himself ( if at all ).

I dont get the ado about marvin vettori. We'll see when he fights costa( another overrated mw but better than BMMA middle outside champ)
 
I disregarded your whole post on your baseless comments about me . You want to get into " x' s and o's with me pal ?

I , admittedly , have a bias towards mousasi but that doesn't make my statements/ opinions ring false.

I'm more on top of the UFC then Bellator and I've been into this stuff since 99' ( in more ways than one).
You seem to have a ultra healthy opinion of Marvin Vettori .

If you cant acknowledge the lack of depth of UFC s 185 division ( this has nothing to do with BMMA) then, lol, I dont know what to tell u.

It's funny how the first several pages of this thread are Salter by sub filled and his unbelievable finish rate as i laughed and said gegard is his equal on the ground but acknowledged that Salter no joke.

On paper, Gegard did have some things to worry about but as the fight unfolded - mousasi had little to worry about. I see uneducated fools calling mousasi flat in the 1st round. It's a 5 round title fight and Salter did everything in his power to get in position which he FAILED. He seated mousasi with gegard back to the cage and being careful and not expending much energy until he got to feet and landed 7-8 knees and 4 of them crashed John to his knees. I knew the fight was over at that point.

I dont consider marvin better in anything opposed to prime chris and believe it or not , mousasi is not that far removed from that version of himself ( if at all ).

I dont get the ado about marvin vettori. We'll see when he fights costa( another overrated mw but better than BMMA middle outside champ)
Lol you're a joke. The first several pages had one guy make a joke saying that Salter would peruvian necktie Mousasi which is an innuendo, you know that and you admitted you know that, and you were the only one who took it seriously because you're childishly defensive of Moursasi. No one else, in fact no one, seriously considered Salter a threat to Mousasi. You've been the only one building up Salter by "acknowledging that Salter (is) no joke." I'm sure that's what you'll do when the Vanderford fight gets nearer too, you'll talk about how Vanderford is this great challenge and if Mousasi beats him then look his legacy is cemented.

You started watching the UFC in 1999 and probably stopped watching it in 2017. All that's in your head is history. And sorry but no one cares. The fight game moves on. There are new fighters, new fights, with new styles and new matchups. Just because the MW division is weaker says nothing about what Gegard would do against one individual fighter or another. I can get into Xs and Os with you because I and others actually watch MMA in the past 4 years. Try me. I don't think you even watch Bellator when Gegard isn't on, so it really shouldn't be hard. You admitted to knowing little or nothing about the #1 contender in the division, despite the fact that he fought another top 5 guy in the division on a main card earlier in the year which actual bellator fans would have seen because it had huge divisional implications. Maybe you know more ancient history than I do. Maybe you know more about fights that happened 10 years ago between fighters who are no longer relevant. Good for you! No one cares about that, people care about what's going on now. You're not a Bellator fan, I'm glad you admit that now, even though for the purposes of Mousasi you pretend to be one. And you're not a UFC fan, although you probably were in 2016.
 
I still don't understand what you're seeing in Vettori lol

Typical average fighter without any elite wins on his resume. He's not great at anything really

He's eight out of ten at everything though. He's not outstanding in one area but he also doesn't really have any glaring weaknesses.
 
I disregarded your whole post on your baseless comments about me . You want to get into " x' s and o's with me pal ?

I , admittedly , have a bias towards mousasi but that doesn't make my statements/ opinions ring false.

I'm more on top of the UFC then Bellator and I've been into this stuff since 99' ( in more ways than one).
You seem to have a ultra healthy opinion of Marvin Vettori .

If you cant acknowledge the lack of depth of UFC s 185 division ( this has nothing to do with BMMA) then, lol, I dont know what to tell u.

It's funny how the first several pages of this thread are Salter by sub filled and his unbelievable finish rate as i laughed and said gegard is his equal on the ground but acknowledged that Salter no joke.

On paper, Gegard did have some things to worry about but as the fight unfolded - mousasi had little to worry about. I see uneducated fools calling mousasi flat in the 1st round. It's a 5 round title fight and Salter did everything in his power to get in position which he FAILED. He seated mousasi with gegard back to the cage and being careful and not expending much energy until he got to feet and landed 7-8 knees and 4 of them crashed John to his knees. I knew the fight was over at that point.

I dont consider marvin better in anything opposed to prime chris and believe it or not , mousasi is not that far removed from that version of himself ( if at all ).

I dont get the ado about marvin vettori. We'll see when he fights costa( another overrated mw but better than BMMA middle outside champ)

The only person who thought Salter was any threat to Mousasi at all was that guy that we're all pretty sure was actually John Salter. Literally nobody else thought he had a prayer.
 
Lol you're a joke. The first several pages had one guy make a joke saying that Salter would peruvian necktie Mousasi which is an innuendo, you know that and you admitted you know that, and you were the only one who took it seriously because you're childishly defensive of Moursasi. No one else, in fact no one, seriously considered Salter a threat to Mousasi. You've been the only one building up Salter by "acknowledging that Salter (is) no joke." I'm sure that's what you'll do when the Vanderford fight gets nearer too, you'll talk about how Vanderford is this great challenge and if Mousasi beats him then look his legacy is cemented.

You started watching the UFC in 1999 and probably stopped watching it in 2017. All that's in your head is history. And sorry but no one cares. The fight game moves on. There are new fighters, new fights, with new styles and new matchups. Just because the MW division is weaker says nothing about what Gegard would do against one individual fighter or another. I can get into Xs and Os with you because I and others actually watch MMA in the past 4 years. Try me. I don't think you even watch Bellator when Gegard isn't on, so it really shouldn't be hard. You admitted to knowing little or nothing about the #1 contender in the division, despite the fact that he fought another top 5 guy in the division on a main card earlier in the year which actual bellator fans would have seen because it had huge divisional implications. Maybe you know more ancient history than I do. Maybe you know more about fights that happened 10 years ago between fighters who are no longer relevant. Good for you! No one cares about that, people care about what's going on now. You're not a Bellator fan, I'm glad you admit that now, even though for the purposes of Mousasi you pretend to be one. And you're not a UFC fan, although you probably were in 2016.
I cant take you serious when you open up with that sentence. I'm a joke - not on your best day , u bag of dicks. When I say Salter might be a tough challenge - just showing some respect to a guy who's finished I dont know how many in a row.
Obviously, if mousasi loses as a 4-1 favorite ( a real loss) - I dont have much legs to stand on. Your so dumb that you csnt recognize what this guy has done for the better part of 2 decades as a clean fighter over every top promotion. You probably idolize a guy like Mamed who didn't have the balls to test himself .

I'm glad you brought up 2016 - 2017... you're another mma sheep thsts needs to be educated on the state of sport. Lol, you're probably some wide eyed pussy who gets impressed with anyone on any given night. Since 18' or 17' , MMA is on the down ( talent wise /depth- u wouldn't know about that ) from then from 170 & up .
Lol, Jorge Masvidal fought for the title....twice . Punch drunk Glover is the, lol, #1 contender due to the state of the division
Dereck Brunson is a win away from a title shot .OMG.
Kevin Gastelum is still considered a top 185er.
Get a grip , you fucking clown .

Heres a fact - Gegard Mousasi would be favored over any UFC middleweight not named Adesanya.....maybe Whitaker- maybe.

I wasnt going to waste my time and I'm not a " last word " type of follower that sherdog reeks of ( thatd be u).
 
Breaking: Scott Coker interested in booking @CorninginChristianburg vs @Franklin U. for upcoming Bellator undercard.

Yeah ... he wouldnt last long .I'd jab his nose once and as he goes to catch the crimson dripping , I'd osoto gari him through the pavement. I'd then feel bad and try to comfort the d- bag ( plus I'd worry about jail , my wife and me 2 little bits).
 
Yeah ... he wouldnt last long .I'd jab his nose once and as he goes to catch the crimson dripping , I'd osoto gari him through the pavement. I'd then feel bad and try to comfort the d- bag ( plus I'd worry about jail , my wife and me 2 little bits).
The only person who thought Salter was any threat to Mousasi at all was that guy that we're all pretty sure was actually John Salter. Literally nobody else thought he had a prayer.
Whatever . Ok so the one or three upset calls and the cockroaches just waiting for Gegard to slip got me going.

I'm pretty sure this is the same lame duck who called Salter beating Van Steenis a massive upset.
Lol- he loses so much credibility on that statement alone.

Btw, unless you have something productive to say my way- you stay out of my business as well.
You're the epitome of the last word ( having ). You've watched alot of fights , no doubt but that doesnt translate in you knowing what you're talking about.

Believe me- I can tell the difference
 
I cant take you serious when you open up with that sentence. I'm a joke - not on your best day , u bag of dicks. When I say Salter might be a tough challenge - just showing some respect to a guy who's finished I dont know how many in a row.
Obviously, if mousasi loses as a 4-1 favorite ( a real loss) - I dont have much legs to stand on. Your so dumb that you csnt recognize what this guy has done for the better part of 2 decades as a clean fighter over every top promotion. You probably idolize a guy like Mamed who didn't have the balls to test himself .

I'm glad you brought up 2016 - 2017... you're another mma sheep thsts needs to be educated on the state of sport. Lol, you're probably some wide eyed pussy who gets impressed with anyone on any given night. Since 18' or 17' , MMA is on the down ( talent wise /depth- u wouldn't know about that ) from then from 170 & up .
Lol, Jorge Masvidal fought for the title....twice . Punch drunk Glover is the, lol, #1 contender due to the state of the division
Dereck Brunson is a win away from a title shot .OMG.
Kevin Gastelum is still considered a top 185er.
Get a grip , you fucking clown .

Heres a fact - Gegard Mousasi would be favored over any UFC middleweight not named Adesanya.....maybe Whitaker- maybe.

I wasnt going to waste my time and I'm not a " last word " type of follower that sherdog reeks of ( thatd be u).
Yeah- they groomed Van Steenis to become the next big European
Lol you're a joke. The first several pages had one guy make a joke saying that Salter would peruvian necktie Mousasi which is an innuendo, you know that and you admitted you know that, and you were the only one who took it seriously because you're childishly defensive of Moursasi. No one else, in fact no one, seriously considered Salter a threat to Mousasi. You've been the only one building up Salter by "acknowledging that Salter (is) no joke." I'm sure that's what you'll do when the Vanderford fight gets nearer too, you'll talk about how Vanderford is this great challenge and if Mousasi beats him then look his legacy is cemented.

You started watching the UFC in 1999 and probably stopped watching it in 2017. All that's in your head is history. And sorry but no one cares. The fight game moves on. There are new fighters, new fights, with new styles and new matchups. Just because the MW division is weaker says nothing about what Gegard would do against one individual fighter or another. I can get into Xs and Os with you because I and others actually watch MMA in the past 4 years. Try me. I don't think you even watch Bellator when Gegard isn't on, so it really shouldn't be hard. You admitted to knowing little or nothing about the #1 contender in the division, despite the fact that he fought another top 5 guy in the division on a main card earlier in the year which actual bellator fans would have seen because it had huge divisional implications. Maybe you know more ancient history than I do. Maybe you know more about fights that happened 10 years ago between fighters who are no longer relevant. Good for you! No one cares about that, people care about what's going on now. You're not a Bellator fan, I'm glad you admit that now, even though for the purposes of Mousasi you pretend to be one. And you're not a UFC fan, although you probably were in 2016.
Yeah - they groomed van steenis to become the next big European champ but Salter pulled the massive upset.

Do you know how mma challenged you sound ? And you're on the worldwide site you dumb prick.

As long as you're going over my posts to claim I'm making protection posts for Gegard - my main concern ( which I posted ) was the van steenis fight where Mousasi is levels above v steenis and was worried he wasnt taking fight seriously because of that fight.

Was Steenis even favored to beat Salter ?

Know your role , son.
 
Lovato is definitely the better jiu jitsu guy but I think in the modern game subs that aren't preceded by damage are hard to come by anyways, which is what is making BJJ based gameplans hard to run, so even if he's the better jiu jitsu guy it ultimately means little as far as finishing the fight. But he can ostensibly still hold people down, he's very strong some (like Gegard) would argue too strong.
I see your join date.
It all makes sense now.

This isnt Polaris, you mo mo. This is fucking mma. You dont hold people down to win a major mma world title . You can " effectively grapple "( which is acceptable)or you can grapple from a point of defense ( Lovato jr demonstrated this in his " fight " with Gegard).

The UFC will survive because of ESPN, hopefully have enough top talent to spread and sit down on their bread & butter ppvs and new fans like you who dont know any better.
 
I see your join date.
It all makes sense now.

This isnt Polaris, you mo mo. This is fucking mma. You dont hold people down to win a major mma world title . You can " effectively grapple "( which is acceptable)or you can grapple from a point of defense ( Lovato jr demonstrated this in his " fight " with Gegard).

The UFC will survive because of ESPN, hopefully have enough top talent to spread and sit down on their bread & butter ppvs and new fans like you who dont know any better.
If you two set up an MMA fight to settle this, I'm willing to spend $100 to watch. You can decide if you want to split it even 50/50, or 30/30, with a $40 win bonus.
 
If you two set up an MMA fight to settle this, I'm willing to spend $100 to watch. You can decide if you want to split it even 50/50, or 30/30, with a $40 win bonus.
I'm the A side .... and I'll take a mere twenty percent. 80/ 20 his way( cause this would be fun for me) and I promise I won't " try" to severely hurt him.
 
I cant take you serious when you open up with that sentence. I'm a joke - not on your best day , u bag of dicks. When I say Salter might be a tough challenge - just showing some respect to a guy who's finished I dont know how many in a row.
Obviously, if mousasi loses as a 4-1 favorite ( a real loss) - I dont have much legs to stand on. Your so dumb that you csnt recognize what this guy has done for the better part of 2 decades as a clean fighter over every top promotion. You probably idolize a guy like Mamed who didn't have the balls to test himself .

I'm glad you brought up 2016 - 2017... you're another mma sheep thsts needs to be educated on the state of sport. Lol, you're probably some wide eyed pussy who gets impressed with anyone on any given night. Since 18' or 17' , MMA is on the down ( talent wise /depth- u wouldn't know about that ) from then from 170 & up .
Lol, Jorge Masvidal fought for the title....twice . Punch drunk Glover is the, lol, #1 contender due to the state of the division
Dereck Brunson is a win away from a title shot .OMG.
Kevin Gastelum is still considered a top 185er.
Get a grip , you fucking clown .

Heres a fact - Gegard Mousasi would be favored over any UFC middleweight not named Adesanya.....maybe Whitaker- maybe.

I wasnt going to waste my time and I'm not a " last word " type of follower that sherdog reeks of ( thatd be u).
You're not a last word guy? Heh that's funny, considering that you have over 25,000 comments on this site. Not a last word guy. And you have a 10:1 like to comment ratio, which means you're writing long posts that people aren't reading in the midst of arguments that have nothing to do with them. Not a last word guy, hilarious. You wrote that post and then 3 more rage posts addressed to me because you're "not a last word guy."

You are a joke because you took a guy who said "Salter by peruvian necktie" seriously when you admitted yourself that you knew the innuendo. You're a joke because that was the only guy who said anything like that and you described it as "the first few pages are...salter by sub filled". Filled? One guy making an innuendo is filled? That's the joke. You're self serious and your characterizations are dishonest.

Did he fight against any of those guys that you mentioned? No. Your argument strategy, the "cluster of random gripes" strategy isn't actually logic, it's just an old head talking about how times were always better in the past. To be fair I also posted a post a few days about how some past era of UFC was better, but you don't reminisce once or twice you live in the past. All of the people that Gegard beat in his "magical" run where he beat "All" 7 of 8 fighters are either retired or gatekeepers now, who have picked up many losses since to new talent that the UFC now push. And what you're going to say, on queue, is that they're older now. It's not as impressive when they won against the same competition. Well Gegard is also older now. And he is not immune to biology, unlike what you want to believe.

And it's hilarious to me that, because you're not a Bellator fan. You're actually really cut up inside about the fact that he's in Bellator. Because all of these thousands, and I mean thousands, of arguments that you've had with people, we'll just never know. Because he's not in the promotion. And that eats at you. Because if only he were there to prove he was so great...but he can't. And he's not. He's in bellator. And he'll face another person you probably think inside is a bellabum but you have to hype up anyways because if you don't then arguing with other UFC fans about his legacy would be that much harder.
Yeah ... he wouldnt last long .I'd jab his nose once and as he goes to catch the crimson dripping , I'd osoto gari him through the pavement. I'd then feel bad and try to comfort the d- bag ( plus I'd worry about jail , my wife and me 2 little bits).
Wow that was very vivid haha. Honored to make a Franklin U fantasy. I just realized, you must be that guy that Gegard said sent him the butt selfie when Brendan Schaub made the statement about Gegard's junk size on the radio haha.
Yeah- they groomed Van Steenis to become the next big European

Yeah - they groomed van steenis to become the next big European champ but Salter pulled the massive upset.

Do you know how mma challenged you sound ? And you're on the worldwide site you dumb prick.

As long as you're going over my posts to claim I'm making protection posts for Gegard - my main concern ( which I posted ) was the van steenis fight where Mousasi is levels above v steenis and was worried he wasnt taking fight seriously because of that fight.

Was Steenis even favored to beat Salter ?

Know your role , son.
They were grooming Van Steenis. They still are. There's a reason he accepted a fight with Salter and by now hasn't fought in a year while Tokov, Vanderford, and Eblen couldn't get any top 5 fights.

Now to address the legitimate concern that Salter was a betting favorite, of course he was. It's a classic striker vs. wrestler match, smart people with money on the line go with the wrestler. But their intention was not and their intention still is not to give Van Steenis challenging competition. Because if he can't beat the least he certainly can't beat the best.
I see your join date.
It all makes sense now.

This isnt Polaris, you mo mo. This is fucking mma. You dont hold people down to win a major mma world title . You can " effectively grapple "( which is acceptable)or you can grapple from a point of defense ( Lovato jr demonstrated this in his " fight " with Gegard).

The UFC will survive because of ESPN, hopefully have enough top talent to spread and sit down on their bread & butter ppvs and new fans like you who dont know any better.
I see your join date too, I'm very impressed that you've been posting bad takes for a long time. /s

The UFC is not dying. It is not remotely struggling. No matter what fantasies you may have. The year to year profits are increasing steadily and no gripes from yourself or any others will change that. And you know the funniest thing? I don't even dislike Gegard. Before obnoxious people like yourself came along I had no gripes about him. I had and have still no problem recognizing his historical value in the sport.

But some day he will retire. And even newer people than me will have never seen him fight. And all the fighters that he fought will have retired. And no one will ever care about who he was or what he did. And you're going to troll these boards once every so often to say "remember that Gegard guy? The one who was really good long ago and is now retired? He was really something." And people will go on with their day and not mind you. And you'll say "MMA is so much worse now, sans Gegard." And people still will not care, some won't even know who you're talking about. And you'll have to live with that. You'll have to live with the fact that our sport is growing, the fastest growing spectator sport in the world. And that people are entering the sport who will have no reverence for the history of the sport and will not care who Gegard was. And soon if it's not already the case, most people who watch the UFC will have never seen Gegard fight. You'll have to live in a world where Gegard is irrelevant.

And I don't think Gegard minds that. Gegard himself has made enough money, with investments and savings, to live comfortably and happily for the rest of his life. But it's going to eat at you, until maybe some day it's just not worth it and you'll walk away from the sport. Because these young new names will never be good enough for you. They'll never be the same. You had one night in shining armor, and he will be gone. Perhaps without ever having returned to the UFC to prove that you were right in all those meaningless Sherdog arguments.
 
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I cant take you serious when you open up with that sentence. I'm a joke - not on your best day , u bag of dicks. When I say Salter might be a tough challenge - just showing some respect to a guy who's finished I dont know how many in a row.
Obviously, if mousasi loses as a 4-1 favorite ( a real loss) - I dont have much legs to stand on. Your so dumb that you csnt recognize what this guy has done for the better part of 2 decades as a clean fighter over every top promotion. You probably idolize a guy like Mamed who didn't have the balls to test himself .

I'm glad you brought up 2016 - 2017... you're another mma sheep thsts needs to be educated on the state of sport. Lol, you're probably some wide eyed pussy who gets impressed with anyone on any given night. Since 18' or 17' , MMA is on the down ( talent wise /depth- u wouldn't know about that ) from then from 170 & up .
Lol, Jorge Masvidal fought for the title....twice . Punch drunk Glover is the, lol, #1 contender due to the state of the division
Dereck Brunson is a win away from a title shot .OMG.
Kevin Gastelum is still considered a top 185er.
Get a grip , you fucking clown .

Heres a fact - Gegard Mousasi would be favored over any UFC middleweight not named Adesanya.....maybe Whitaker- maybe.

I wasnt going to waste my time and I'm not a " last word " type of follower that sherdog reeks of ( thatd be u).

Yeah ... he wouldnt last long .I'd jab his nose once and as he goes to catch the crimson dripping , I'd osoto gari him through the pavement. I'd then feel bad and try to comfort the d- bag ( plus I'd worry about jail , my wife and me 2 little bits).

Whatever . Ok so the one or three upset calls and the cockroaches just waiting for Gegard to slip got me going.

I'm pretty sure this is the same lame duck who called Salter beating Van Steenis a massive upset.
Lol- he loses so much credibility on that statement alone.

Btw, unless you have something productive to say my way- you stay out of my business as well.
You're the epitome of the last word ( having ). You've watched alot of fights , no doubt but that doesnt translate in you knowing what you're talking about.

Believe me- I can tell the difference

Yeah- they groomed Van Steenis to become the next big European

Yeah - they groomed van steenis to become the next big European champ but Salter pulled the massive upset.

Do you know how mma challenged you sound ? And you're on the worldwide site you dumb prick.

As long as you're going over my posts to claim I'm making protection posts for Gegard - my main concern ( which I posted ) was the van steenis fight where Mousasi is levels above v steenis and was worried he wasnt taking fight seriously because of that fight.

Was Steenis even favored to beat Salter ?

Know your role , son.


I see your join date.
It all makes sense now.

This isnt Polaris, you mo mo. This is fucking mma. You dont hold people down to win a major mma world title . You can " effectively grapple "( which is acceptable)or you can grapple from a point of defense ( Lovato jr demonstrated this in his " fight " with Gegard).

The UFC will survive because of ESPN, hopefully have enough top talent to spread and sit down on their bread & butter ppvs and new fans like you who dont know any better.

I'm the A side .... and I'll take a mere twenty percent. 80/ 20 his way( cause this would be fun for me) and I promise I won't " try" to severely hurt him.


This dude legit having a complete breakdown over here. Even quoting himself.

I hope it's just booze and you can sleep on it and wake up okay.
 
Whatever . Ok so the one or three upset calls and the cockroaches just waiting for Gegard to slip got me going.

I'm pretty sure this is the same lame duck who called Salter beating Van Steenis a massive upset.
Lol- he loses so much credibility on that statement alone.

Btw, unless you have something productive to say my way- you stay out of my business as well.
You're the epitome of the last word ( having ). You've watched alot of fights , no doubt but that doesnt translate in you knowing what you're talking about.

Believe me- I can tell the difference

Dude it's a message board, if you make a post people are entitled to reply to it as they see fit. If you don't like it just put me on your ignore list.
 
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