Economy The border is a disaster right now

[Slick_36]

Of course they are, which is why they're perfectly ok with allowing the floodgates to open up in Texas to flip the state.

Ah I see. Illegal immigrants are flooding the state I live in and somehow getting away with voter fraud by the thousands in the areas most aware and afraid of that exact scenario. Solid logic.

 

[MoparOrNoCar]

Ah I see. Illegal immigrants are flooding the state I live in and somehow getting away with voter fraud by the thousands in the areas most aware and afraid of that exact scenario. Solid logic.

Nice strawman. How is arguing half of my argument mixed with half of your own made up argument going for you?

If you don't see the writing on the wall, I don't know what to tell you. Just look at the video and images of the border and look at how Dems scream bloody murder at merely the mention of people having to show an ID to prove they're an American citizen before they vote. Add to that the fact that they were strongly telling Cuban immigrants (non Democratic voters) to not come here and you have a scenario that's as obvious as it gets. But you've already proven that you'll completely ignore that because it would mean you would have to come to the realization that Democrats don't give fuck all about illegal immigrants or their welfare. They just want their future votes to stay in power.

 

[Slick_36]

Nice strawman. How is arguing half of my argument mixed with half of your own made up argument going for you?

If you don't see the writing on the wall, I don't know what to tell you. Just look at the video and images of the border and look at how Dems scream bloody murder at merely the mention of people having to show an ID to prove they're an American citizen before they vote. Add to that the fact that they were strongly telling Cuban immigrants (non Democratic voters) to not come here and you have a scenario that's as obvious as it gets. But you've already proven that you'll completely ignore that because it would mean you would have to come to the realization that Democrats don't give fuck all about illegal immigrants or their welfare. They just want their future votes to stay in power.

If that was the case, why wouldn't Democrats actually work for these immigrants to have a quick and easy path to citizenship so they can vote for them legally? Was it not Obama who built the cages? Biden is farther left than Obama?

 

[12ga.]

I think it more about cheap labor. The millionaires don't give a fuck what color you are - they like green - as long as you're willing to work cheap and as the righties say McDonalds is paying $17 an hour and can't get help thus lax border. Been this way for awhile like 40 years. Remember Reagan amnesty?

 

[bobgeese]

Ok let me educate you on illegal immigration paying taxes since I know plenty of them.

When illegal gets hired from American companies. Most companies or bosses know that their illegal and hire anyways. Why ? Because they have fake social securities or their able to get a real social security somehow..(another issue)

Regardless, these illegals pay taxes on that social, they pay state taxes etc. They'll never received social security checks when they retire like Americans do. Even though they paid into the system.

Now ask yourself , where does all that money thousands and even millions of illegals working on those SS numbers going? Where all that money they'll never see?

I live in AZ(border state) many illegals work in the construction and farming industry here. They provide alot of service and growth here. I have no issue if their legal or not. They're contributing to society.

Now for the ones who don't contribute or take, that's a human behavior problem because you have Americans who do the same thing.

Please go look up the cost of educating the kids of illegals so you can stop embarrassing yourself.


That alone is an unsustainable number.


PS, they are also driving down the wages significantly for every other construction worker. One figure I read in Texas was 30%. You're cheerleading the downfall of your countrymen.

 

[MoparOrNoCar]

If that was the case, why wouldn't Democrats actually work for these immigrants to have a quick and easy path to citizenship so they can vote for them legally? Was it not Obama who built the cages? Biden is farther left than Obama?

Why do you keep avoiding the Cuba question?

What benefit does allowing tens of thousands of illegal immigrants into a country with an ailing economy and civil unrest do for us? The Democrats aren't going to just open everything up and allow anyone who wants to come in here just walk in freely because that would uproot enough of their current voting base to cost them elections but they are certainly putting up as little resistance as possible to illegal immigrants coming over. And what does it accomplish for the American people to allow tens and hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to trickle in?

 

[Slick_36]

Why do you keep avoiding the Cuba question?

What benefit does allowing tens of thousands of illegal immigrants into a country with an ailing economy and civil unrest do for us? The Democrats aren't going to just open everything up and allow anyone who wants to come in here just walk in freely because that would uproot enough of their current voting base to cost them elections but they are certainly putting up as little resistance as possible to illegal immigrants coming over. And what does it accomplish for the American people to allow tens and hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to trickle in?

Illegal citizens that wouldn't be able to vote, so them letting them in for votes makes no sense. I imagine they told Cubans not to come for the same reason they built cages for immigrants in the first place, like you said, the Democratic party doesn't care about immigrants. The difference to me is the Democrats don't run on platforms that fear monger the threat of those immigrants "invading". And being that a more empathic and humane treatment of people in need beyond our borders is a position of the left, the Democrats are the closest thing you will get to that in the American government.

 

[kenetics]

Please go look up the cost of educating the kids of illegals so you can stop embarrassing yourself.


That alone is an unsustainable number.


PS, they are also driving down the wages significantly for every other construction worker. One figure I read in Texas was 30%. You're cheerleading the downfall of your countrymen.

The difference from me and you is that I don't look at anyone differently because the came from a different country. If they out work others then they deserve what they get American or not.

I'm happy they can go to school like the rest of us. I have no issues paying taxes for all kids or people to get an education.

 

[bobgeese]

The difference from me and you is that I don't look at anyone differently because the came from a different country. If they out work others then they deserve what they get American or not.

I'm happy they can go to school like the rest of us. I have no issues paying taxes for all kids or people to get an education.

The difference between us is you have the political ideals of a 3rd grader.


News flash, that shit doesn't work outside of your fantasy.

 

[Culombo]

this thread is racist

 

[kenetics]

The difference between us is you have the political ideals of a 3rd grader.


News flash, that shit doesn't work outside of your fantasy.

Don't speak of politics my guy. I know you want to still believe in them but they sold you out long ago lol.

 

[bobgeese]

Don't speak of politics my guy. I know you want to still believe in them but they sold you out long ago lol.

Do you really think your ideas are new or clever? As if you are smarter that the generations of great men who came before you? Your arrogance is as astounding as your naivety.

 

[kenetics]

Do you really think your ideas are new or clever? As if you are smarter that the generations of great men who came before you? Your arrogance is as astounding as your naivety.

I'm sure smarter than anyone who believes in the main police parties , that's for sure .

 

[ShadowRun]

 

[bobgeese]

I'm sure smarter than anyone who believes in the main police parties , that's for sure .

Nice strawman, why don't you get back to addressing how your ideas won't work in the real world?

 

[kenetics]

Nice strawman, why don't you get back to addressing how your ideas won't work in the real world?

They will because illegals never get an income return at end of year, pay federal and state taxes. They get taxed every time the spend money in America.

So where all the money they pay into the system bobo? Politicians pockets ?

 

[bobgeese]

They will because illegals never get an income return at end of year, pay federal and state taxes. They get taxed every time the spend money in America.

So where all the money they pay into the system bobo? Politicians pockets ?

Again, here's where you go google how much it costs to educate the children of illegals. It's an astounding figure.


They pay far less than they take. Furthermore, if the pandemic didn't show you that we don't even have enough resources to take care of the people already here, then you are hopeless.

 

[kenetics]

Again, here's where you go google how much it costs to educate the children of illegals. It's an astounding figure.


They pay far less than they take. Furthermore, if the pandemic didn't show you that we don't even have enough resources to take care of the people already here, then you are hopeless.

Lol. Didn't the pandemic show that Americans don't want to work? The unemployment is still high after the cut benefits . Americans don't want to work those basic jobs anymore . Even when companies are paying more than ever and even giving bonus to start.

They sure did prove my point haaa haaaaa

 

[bobgeese]

Lol. Didn't the pandemic show that Americans don't want to work? The unemployment is still high after the cut benefits . Americans don't want to work those basic jobs anymore . Even when companies are paying more than ever and even giving bonus to start.

They sure did prove my point haaa haaaaa

Like I said, you have about a 3rd grade grasp of the world. In reality, we're a sinking ship, that is for some reason still welcoming passengers instead of fixing the holes.

Our healthcare system is terrible.
Countless businesses have gone under.
Supply chain shortages.
Still using crumbling infrastructure.
Still using a 100 year old outdated power grid.


Every dollar given to an illegal could have been used to help a sick person, a poor black kid in your neighborhood, a struggling business. The hard truth is there are limited resources on this planet, and people have always, and will always compete for them.

 

[kenetics]

Like I said, you have about a 3rd grade grasp of the world. In reality, we're a sinking ship, that is for some reason still welcoming passengers instead of fixing the holes.

Our healthcare system is terrible.
Countless businesses have gone under.
Supply chain shortages.
Still using crumbling infrastructure.
Still using a 100 year old outdated power grid.


Every dollar given to an illegal could have been used to help a sick person, a poor black kid in your neighborhood, a struggling business. The hard truth is there are limited resources on this planet, and people have always, and will always compete for them.

You are care about sick people and poor black kids huh? But you don't care about illegals? Illegals that work and are hired by American buisness man? Provide services and have always worked in fields Americans don't want to do.

I like how you dodged that Americans weren't going back to work after unemployment was cut and jobs raising wages higher than pre covid lol. I thought muricans will do the jobs !! Bobo nope. Looks like illegals going to have to continue to pick some of the slack .