DC Believes Fedor Was 'Average At Best' In 2009

[Repsac]

Salt city. Fedor will always be above Cormier on the totem pole simply because of the fact that he never cried like a grown ass baby in the ring after another man beat his ass. That’s just a major deal breaker…..

Plus Fedor was exciting and fought his opponents at their strength (CroCop, Nog, Arlovski, Werdum etc.).
Cormier didn't even dare to stand with Anderson, a middleweight.

 

[Dr Guildo]

I dont even think Daniel Cormier truly believe this quote. Probably to make himself feel better or that he works for UFC and trying to make Fedor less of a fighter he was seems to put UFC in a better light.

I agree tho that 2009 Fedor was quite far from prime-Fedor but he would still be a contender and up at the top. But sure, i believe in 2009 Fedor could lose against fighters like Velasques and JDS at that time, JDS and Cain were very good that time, but of course Fedor could as well win against them he still was good enough for that.

 

[xHeadx]

We're talking 2009-2011. Fedor was not at his best. DC may be on to something. Remember, these are all opinions. See my sig.

 

[TP4iR]

DC still butthurt for being referenced by some back in the day as Black Fedor, forever in his shadow

 

[acannxr]

Fedor fans like to pretend his prime ended when he was 31 (VERY YOUNG for a HW)

Firstly, Fedor's prime ended by 07-08, due to having sustained a concurrent combat sambo career and injuries catching up with him; believing that age is the sole barometer for a fighter's prime is woeful ignorance.

The point he’s making is that fedor would not have been able to compete with the best fighters any more.

And you keep acting like that's the only thing Cormier said; claiming that a fighter would be "average at best" but still favor them to defeat the then-champion is not only absurd but a laughable contradiction.

Furthermore, when Fedor could be considered a favorite in at least half of the top ten (even in the 2011 rankings), how exactly is that "average at best"?

The truth of the matter is that because Fedor spoke honestly about Dana White and the UFC, the latter two ordered Cormier to slander Fedor's name in retaliation; Cormier is a UFC shill and even if he wasn't, his opinion is often times biased at best and delusional at worst.

 

[MCS]

Fedor's coaches said he got by Rogers with his "old tricks", no more improvement, hinting at decline. And in 2010 started the 3-fight losing streak. I love Hendo, but Dan's getting mauled by Cain in 2010.

So there is truth to what DC says. Kongo beat Cro Cop, albeit with 100 knees to nads, but Kongo was still winning that.

 

[hohner]

cain is one of the most overrated figthers ever

Thank you, I'll keep that in mind.

 

[Final Say]

Firstly, Fedor's prime ended by 07-08, due to having sustained a concurrent combat sambo career and injuries catching up with him; believing that age is the sole barometer for a fighter's prime is woeful ignorance.


And you keep acting like that's the only thing Cormier said; claiming that a fighter would be "average at best" but still favor them to defeat the then-champion is not only absurd but a laughable contradiction.

Furthermore, when Fedor could be considered a favorite in at least half of the top ten (even in the 2011 rankings), how exactly is that "average at best"?

The truth of the matter is that because Fedor spoke honestly about Dana White and the UFC, the latter two ordered Cormier to slander Fedor's name in retaliation; Cormier is a UFC shill and even if he wasn't, his opinion is often times biased at best and delusional at worst.

So do you think fedor could have realistically competed with and beat fighters like Stipe, JDS, Cain, DC, etc? Is that the conclusion you’re coming to?

 

[Jibsta69]

Fedor struggled with Brett Rogers in 2009 so he’s probably not completely wrong

 

[Dr Guildo]

So do you think fedor could have realistically competed with and beat fighters like Stipe, JDS, Cain, DC, etc? Is that the conclusion you’re coming to?

 

[snugglecakes]

He was literally CUT from strikeforce for not having what it takes. That alone is all you need to know that DC is right

Brock would have manhandled him too. Bigfoot plooked him via just using size n no skill

 

[Amerikuracana]

Fedor actually stopped doing roids when he came to the states.. He didn’t realize that everybody else was just creative about it, or he took honor in playing by the rules. It put him at a disadvantage. He wasted Sylvia pretty easily, but I would say post arlovski fight fedor was definitely out of his prime, which was like 21-32 years old. How long was Cain and jds prime? DCs prime? How long did thise guys dominate for? Fedor went 32-0 against thee best in the world. He got off roids once they weren’t legal, and at that point his smaller size at the weight class became an issue.

 

[GOATtalks]

Fedor actually stopped doing roids when he came to the states.. He didn’t realize that everybody else was just creative about it, or he took honor in playing by the rules. It put him at a disadvantage. He wasted Sylvia pretty easily, but I would say post arlovski fight fedor was definitely out of his prime, which was like 21-32 years old. How long was Cain and jds prime? DCs prime? How long did thise guys dominate for? Fedor went 32-0 against thee best in the world. He got off roids once they weren’t legal, and at that point his smaller size at the weight class became an issue.

32-0 against best in the world? Wow, that’s a stretch. Since when Zulu, HMC and Kosaka are considered best in the world at any time?

 

[Amerikuracana]

32-0 against best in the world? Wow, that’s a stretch. Since when Zulu, HMC and Kosaka are considered beat in the world at any time?

*sigh* ok not every fight was against a top 5 fighter at the time.

 

[Deathbycalfkick]

Plus Fedor was exciting and fought his opponents at their strength (CroCop, Nog, Arlovski, Werdum etc.).
Cormier didn't even dare to stand with Anderson, a middleweight.

Very few people have the ability to stand with Anderson, even after the leg break and on two days notice. DC would have been dismantled on the feet, he took one kick to his gut and that was it.

That said Fedor was definitely fading by 2009. He beats Lesnar, Carwin, JDS, loses to Cain and probably DC at that point. In his prime only DC would give him trouble, but he still wins by KO.

 

[Dr Guildo]

Fedor actually stopped doing roids when he came to the states.. He didn’t realize that everybody else was just creative about it, or he took honor in playing by the rules.

"Ok"

32-0 against best in the world? Wow, that’s a stretch. Since when Zulu, HMC and Kosaka are considered beat in the world at any time?

Of course he couldnt have had 32-0 against literally the best opponent at that time, then he would have had to face Big Nog 32 times. He did beat him 3 out of 3 tho.

 

[Dr Guildo]

Very few people have the ability to stand with Anderson, even after the leg break and on two days notice. DC would have been dismantled on the feet, he took one kick to his gut and that was it.

I would bet on a prime Fedor against Silva on his feet all day tho.. Have a hard time seeing Anderson have a chance there.

 

[Miiiiiiighty]

Fedor would have been fine until guys like Cain, JDS, and Carwin came along.

Please no, Carwin was a one trick pony who was way overrated... 2009 Fedor would have zulu'd him.
JDS is way overrated too, he would have got mauled.

Cain is a really interesting fight though, but not in 2009, where he got put on queer street by Cheick Kongo...
In 2011 that's another story though.

But DC is kind of raging here, and I'm one of his biggest supporters on this board.

Sorry Daniel but a prime Fedor would never have got KTFO'ed by Jones, even roided, in fact it most likely would have been the opposite.

 

[Ghostoftheville]

Why not? If I told you Cro Cop would struggle against Kongo one year removed from winning the openweight GP and two years from losing a competitive fight against Fedor. You would think I am crazy too?

No, because Kongo is a kickboxer, Crocop isn't a good enough grappler to be a threat of a takedown. Fedor is a threat everywhere for a guy like Kongo.

 

[mjfan23]

It’s ok DC has said more embarrassing things being company man before