Did Francis embarrass the sport of MMA

[brakkkop]

future fight ngannou vs jake paul, where frances take a dive for some millions

 

[fzoid4454]

Just realised that Joshua landed 5 power punches in total.

Five.

Five punches that weren’t jabs.

How anyone can deny that boxers have significantly better punch resistance and power, is beyond me. Proper ‘head in the sand’ stuff.

You would struggle to find another fight in AJ’s career where his opponent struggled with his power so dramatically.

Do they, though? It's more complicated than that, I think. Timing, and accuracy and disguise. It's the punch that hits the right sport that you aren't moving with that puts you out more than raw power. Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida didn't wrack up all their highlight KOs because they have massive, raw power.

 

[Khaiser]

Do they, though? It's more complicated than that, I think. Timing, and accuracy and disguise. It's the punch that hits the right sport that you aren't moving with that puts you out more than raw power. Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida didn't wrack up all their highlight KOs because they have massive, raw power.

Yes, they evidently do.

Any consideration of punch power in the context of combat sports should always incorporate timing, accuracy etc. We’re not talking about who can hit one of those punch machines the hardest here, because it’s entirely irrelevant in the context of combat sports, we’re talking about who can effectively render another fighter unconscious.

 

[suprah]

No because he didnt lose an mma fight he lost a boxing match. Had this been mma he would have won as most who train mma would beat boxers. Floyd Mayweather wud have got stomped by Conor if they just got in a ring and went at it. Youll never hear him say that tho. Even Ali years ago wanted "special" rules to fight Inoki cause he knew hed lose.

 

[NoSmilez]

I want to see Francis in BKFC tbh

Maybe after he loses a little bit. BKFC can afford 1 million for Perry. They can probably get 3-4 for Francis.

 

[MMAFanCal]

Francis did embarrass MMA big time considering his arrogance, condescending trash talking. The whole Fury thing went really into his head. If you had followed the build up to the fight, he was mocking boxers all the time that they are getting protected by boxing rules otherwise, he would smash them without any issues. He kept repeating Joshua has weak chin and that as soon as he lands on Joshua, he would easily knock him out. It got to a point where Joshua called him out for underestimating him and he even made it a point to let Francis know that he has been underestimated all his life.

As it turns out, the boxing rules did not protect Joshua as he beat the brakes off Francis while staying within the boxing rules. Considering how clueless Francis looked in front of Anthony with no footwork, no shoulder movement, slow and repetitive in his actions while being overly reactive to what Joshua was doing, he showed MMA striking is completely in a different planet than boxing where Joshua was playing with him and setting traps up for Francis with Francis falling directly into his traps repetitively. The power and precision Joshua showed, was a clear indication that Francis has never experienced anything like that.

 

[don't ask]

Bro, what would Francis do? Lay on him like a girl? Joshua showed how easy he would kill Francis lol

You're on a MMA forum, maybe you could learn something about MMA.

 

[Huligani]

No, this is what was expected more or less from Fury vs Ngannou. If Joshua came over and fought Aspinall, he'd get submitted easily. It's insane to expect anything else, even if sometimes other results do happen (i.e. Fury vs Ngannou).

 

[FreedomCricket]

Nothing says “law abiding citizens” quite like threatening to shoot someone over a bar fight.

You're right, law abiding citizens would not threaten.

They wouldn't say a word about their firearm and would try to diffuse the situation. Then if the situation rose to where there was a great threat of death or grave bodily harm they would be entirely justified to use deadly force, assuming they weren't living in a commie state.

 

[m249viking]

The only people Frank embarrassed are the ones who thought he could box, the people who think Fury didn’t carry Frank and the people who think that Frank got paid 10s of millions to be a stage prop.

 

[Verderglen23]

3+ MMA fighters looked like total ass against Jake Paul. There's nothing Francis could do to embarass MMA further.

 

[Khaiser]

3+ MMA fighters looked like total ass against Jake Paul. There's nothing Francis could do to embarass MMA further.

True.

Jake Paul being able to out-alpha former UFC stars in a straight punch up isn’t a good look for MMA.

 

[SkinnyClaw]

No. He's still the baddest man on the planet. If you think Joshua would beat him in a real fight, power slap yourself.

In a street fight, with no prior knowledge of who the other person is, I can see many boxers chinning MMA fighters easily. Unless you're Ben Askren, most MMA fighters will throw hands to start with, and if they are up against a good boxer they will get ktfo before they realise they should be shooting takedowns.

Joshua would chin Ngannou for sure if they got into a real fight and Ngannou didn't know who he was dealing with. He'd probably throw some wild shit and be on his ass before he knew what happened.

 

[orca]

No. He's still the baddest man on the planet. If you think Joshua would beat him in a real fight, power slap yourself.

yeah you forget to add he made 30 million

thats the typical nganou apologist ive red

where talking about his skills
like hes a fish out of water
the man acts like he kos any HW boxer

why not talk about it right now

and lol at sherdoggers who liked your post

 

[orca]

Dana White refusing to pay his top athletes better is more embarrassing. It's the only reason why Conor McGregor was on two knees and begging to get knocked out by Mayweather. Same reason why we got a bunch of washed up MMA fighters wanting to box Jake Paul.

you do know that the saudis payed for the money?
they literally lost money just to make this circus event

bro u serious ?
guys like machida and rashad can sell more ppvs than nganou
and are more skilled than nganou

69k ppvs
we are all glad you dont run the ufc
theyl get bankrupt if they employ people like you tbh

 

[Khaiser]

In a street fight, with no prior knowledge of who the other person is, I can see many boxers chinning MMA fighters easily. Unless you're Ben Askren, most MMA fighters will throw hands to start with, and if they are up against a good boxer they will get ktfo before they realise they should be shooting takedowns.

Joshua would chin Ngannou for sure if they got into a real fight and Ngannou didn't know who he was dealing with. He'd probably throw some wild shit and be on his ass before he knew what happened.

This is the truth right here.

The hypothetical street fight scenario always has a few key caveats that make it very unrealistic. A strictly 1vs1 fight in which both people know the ability of their opponent.

An MMA bout, basically.

 

[welcometohavoc]

The problem is no one will ever see it because boxers refuse to do mma. So instead everyone will only see mma fighters get humiliated in boxing

This.

At the end of the day, all anyone is going to remember is that Anthony Joshua flatlined Francis Ngannou in a fist fight. Everything else is speculative

 

[CasualBot]

No, he did not.


Stupid take.


MMA embarrassment was Anderson Silva, Woodley, Nate, and Askren...

Francis fighting champions is respect, win or lose.

Now, we have no choice but to respect Jake Paul for dropping Anderson fuckin Silva. Even Isreal Adesenya couldn't drop Silva.

 

[dcthegod]

No. He's still the baddest man on the planet. If you think Joshua would beat him in a real fight, power slap yourself.

8:28

 

[MMAFanCal]

In a street fight, with no prior knowledge of who the other person is, I can see many boxers chinning MMA fighters easily. Unless you're Ben Askren, most MMA fighters will throw hands to start with, and if they are up against a good boxer they will get ktfo before they realise they should be shooting takedowns.

Joshua would chin Ngannou for sure if they got into a real fight and Ngannou didn't know who he was dealing with. He'd probably throw some wild shit and be on his ass before he knew what happened.

Francis was never known for his wrestling or takedown skills. In a street fight, he would fight Joshua exactly like one would expect him to and what he is famous for - the Ford Escort punch. He would try to do the Ford Escort thing and next thing he would see is Anthony Joshua KTFO him in a split second. Like Francis said, he does not remember anything about the punches Joshua landed.