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Henry Armstrong vs Pryor would’ve been funHe's not an ATG in terms of resume but h2h I'd take him over any 140lber in history, except if Duran fought at 140.
Henry Armstrong vs Pryor would’ve been funHe's not an ATG in terms of resume but h2h I'd take him over any 140lber in history, except if Duran fought at 140.
Marciano sure put himself through some hell if the first fight was fixed .... but I’m assuming you’re referring to the rematchMarciano's fight against Walcott was fixed
He beat nothing but washed up greats and would've literally died in the ring if he stuck around for Liston
So much bullshit in one post ...hoping you don’t really believe this shit lolAm I though? Fought holyfield just a tiny bit before he was completely shot. Fought a completely shot tyson. Lost to lesser fighters, don't care if he won the rematches, he should've never lost to them.
Refused to fight ruiz and byrd, and finally got the gift from god of a lifetime in the form of Vitalis cut before he retired from boxing as he wanted none of the Byrd/Klitchko/ruiz/Brewster championship separation that Lennox created himself by vacating his belts in the first place.
Everyone makes fun of bowe for dropping his belt instead of fighting Lewis but Lewis did the same shit and if he rematched Vitali Vitali would have beaten him into a coma and bowe would probably chin him too
He’s a huge Cory t-Rex Sanders fanHow?
Golota didn't beat anyone?
How?
Golota didn't beat anyone?
Ramirez and Rosario were signature wins probably his best wins, Bramble, Pazienza, Mancini and Haugen were just names by the time he fought them, the Ramirez win to me is the best one for Macho, and speaking of Ramirez, there’s underrated one, before there was JCC there was Ramirez, similar styles, similar upbringing anyway, Ramirez gave everyone hellCurious what Camacho wins impressed you ?
In that case .... I’ll put Camacho as a overrated Fighter ....Ramirez was extremely underrated , but besides the Whitaker gift he lost to top guys most oftenRamirez and Rosario were signature wins probably his best wins, Bramble, Pazienza, Mancini and Haugen were just names by the time he fought them, the Ramirez win to me is the best one for Macho, and speaking of Ramirez, there’s underrated one, before there was JCC there was Ramirez, similar styles, similar upbringing anyway, Ramirez gave everyone hell
Norton beat Ali at least twice ..., don’t care what biased shitty judges sayYou right.my bad.
But beating a washed up Great like Ali doesn't be u become a AtG. Norton beat Ali one time but Meh. He didn't go on a run and prove it wasn't just a fluke or Ali getting Old overnight. Like saying Ruiz is a Goat cause he beat AJ and AJ had 3 belts at the time
Now your just taking the piss.I'm surprised Sugar Ray Robinson hasn't been brought up yet. While certainly a historical boxer, I personally don't get why he's at no. 1 on so many lists... People are flexible with 2-20, but the no 1 spot often seems to be reserved for Robinson. I guess many people just see his big numerical record and don't look any deeper to see which opposition was behind it.
He was beatable, and he arguably ducked the Murderers Row,... and while being a great offensive boxer, he wasn't anywhere close to the great defensive boxers in history ... I'd say Duran was a more complete boxer in the sense that he combined offense and defense better... Floyd was slicker than Robinson... And I recall Emanuel Steward saying in an interview that they wouldn't let Robinson fight anyone taller than 5'9.
Robinson's defensive weapons were mostly his feet, comparable to Pacquaio. But Pac boxed a lot of opponents that were on eye-level or taller.
Robinson vs Leonard at 147, Robinson vs Hearns at 154, Robinson vs Jones / Hopkins at 160... I wouldn't feel confident picking Robinson in any of those fights.
Now your just taking the piss.
No idea at all. Your not referring to Burley and co by any chance. Rumor has it, that he said they would have to pay him a lot of money, to face Dave sands.It's been discussed severel times on this forum. I also doubt that you heard about the Murderers Row before.
I'm surprised Sugar Ray Robinson hasn't been brought up yet. While certainly a historical boxer, I personally don't get why he's at no. 1 on so many lists... People are flexible with 2-20, but the no 1 spot often seems to be reserved for Robinson. I guess many people just see his big numerical record and don't look any deeper to see which opposition was behind it.
He was beatable, and he arguably ducked the Murderers Row,... and while being a great offensive boxer, he wasn't anywhere close to the great defensive boxers in history ... I'd say Duran was a more complete boxer in the sense that he combined offense and defense better... Floyd was slicker than Robinson... And I recall Emanuel Steward saying in an interview that they wouldn't let Robinson fight anyone taller than 5'9.
Robinson's defensive weapons were mostly his feet, comparable to Pacquaio. But Pac boxed a lot of opponents that were on eye-level or taller.
Robinson vs Leonard at 147, Robinson vs Hearns at 154, Robinson vs Hagler / Jones / Hopkins at 160... I wouldn't feel confident picking Robinson in any of those fights.
Armstrong might actually torch him honestlyHenry Armstrong vs Pryor would’ve been fun
Don't agree. Go watch hanzagod's defensive highlights of Robinson.
You will see many instances of Robinson being defensively slick. He wasn't as consistent using these moves as Floyd or Pernell were, but he did have them and used them.
And most of those highlights are from his later years.
You can't judge him when you watch him not being that slick in a match that he is 38 years old and out of his prime.
See how Golovkin fights now that he hit the same age. After so many wars he's not the same guy.
In the same age and after a lot more wars than GGG he beat Basilio on a rematch and regained his belt, something nobody was expecting him to do.
I think in his prime was like Pep but with power in both hands.
He had the unbeaten record that made Floyd (hundreds of fights before his first loss) and the Ali against all odds performance. What else can you ask?
Who in particular are locking in Over sugar?It's been discussed severel times on this forum. I also doubt that you heard about the Murderers Row before.
That would be an amazing fight.Armstrong might actually torch him honestly