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I replied to your post in the yellow because you touched on a lot of things and I felt like it would be easier to discuss each topic separately
Chuck was KOed 3 times in a row AFTER the fight with Wandy, not priorRight, but my point with Stefan Struve is that he was known to have a bad in fact it just depended on who he was fighting &' terrible defense. If you go back people were talking about him being especially chinny. But I know that they h come in spurts. However, Reem was torched multiple times in a row. Not just in the UFC, but also as a MW in PRIDE back in the mid 00s. Then Andréi Arlovski was melted numerous times before turning it around. I'm just saying that people go through bad stretches.
The same is true with Cro-Cop. When he first left the UFC he was knocked out three times in a row and four of six (Roy, Mir, Schaub and JDS) before exiting the organization. He was also dropped like X 3 by Pat Barry. On the wrong side of 30 and hurtling towards 40 with slurred speech CC unretires and has fights in Japan and the UFC thereafter. After all the brain scrambling, he retired at 36 .......
Nope ... of course he didn't lol. So between 2011 and 2017 he wins 8 of 9 and is on a 7 fight win streak. After picking up a wins in Japan that included bodying Satoshi Ishii X 2 he returned to the UFC (2015) and got revenge against Gabriel Gonzaga with a TKO victory.. Thereafter he went on to demolishing King Mo as well as the undefeated Amir Aliakbari inside 3 minutes.
Point being, after 4/6 fights with him getting TKOd, he returns between 39 and 42 years old where he has won 7 straight. This is without shitkicking typical Japanese orgs butchers, bakers, and candlestick maker's for pure entertainment. BTW: in the midst of his MMA run he made a pitstop in his old stomping grounds of kickboxing where he won a K1 tournament.
So, chins getting cracked come and go. While Reem may have tweeted a few things on defense, I assure you that CC did not. This is why we can't write off Hunt so quick. I know Hendo's jawline has shown fissures if not utter crevasses, but every fighter's physiology is different and anatomical structures aren't constructed uniformly. We and we have to take it on a fight my fight basis. Styles make fights and TBB is IMO is great matchup for Hunto to get back on track.
Let's remember that Hunt was blown off of his feet by middleweight Melvin Manhoef in DREAM in 2007 so it's not like he has been able to withstand inhuman blows to the head like a bunker buster proof safe house.
Other fighters known to have lost their stiff beard include Chuck Liddell who was TKOd three times in a row before engaging in a ferocious tete-a-tete with Wandy where he absorbed everything but a tire iron to the back of the skull.
Cesar Mutante is another. He was TKO'd in 3/4 successive appearances totaling a sparse 8:39 before getting back on track. Now, he was able to run off three straight.
I'm not sure if I'm reading this right, but are you implying that chins can 'heal' back? There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of scientific consensus about the myth of the chin, so I doubt anyone in this thread can either deny or confirm that. When people generally talk about chins it's just a whole bunch of layman's inference.Right, but my point with Stefan Struve is that he was known to have a bad in fact it just depended on who he was fighting &' terrible defense. If you go back people were talking about him being especially chinny. But I know that they h come in spurts. However, Reem was torched multiple times in a row. Not just in the UFC, but also as a MW in PRIDE back in the mid 00s. Then Andréi Arlovski was melted numerous times before turning it around. I'm just saying that people go through bad stretches.
The same is true with Cro-Cop. When he first left the UFC he was knocked out three times in a row and four of six (Roy, Mir, Schaub and JDS) before exiting the organization. He was also dropped like X 3 by Pat Barry. On the wrong side of 30 and hurtling towards 40 with slurred speech CC unretires and has fights in Japan and the UFC thereafter. After all the brain scrambling, he retired at 36 .......
Nope ... of course he didn't lol. So between 2011 and 2017 he wins 8 of 9 and is on a 7 fight win streak. After picking up a wins in Japan that included bodying Satoshi Ishii X 2 he returned to the UFC (2015) and got revenge against Gabriel Gonzaga with a TKO victory.. Thereafter he went on to demolishing King Mo as well as the undefeated Amir Aliakbari inside 3 minutes.
Point being, after 4/6 fights with him getting TKOd, he returns between 39 and 42 years old where he has won 7 straight. This is without shitkicking typical Japanese orgs butchers, bakers, and candlestick maker's for pure entertainment. BTW: in the midst of his MMA run he made a pitstop in his old stomping grounds of kickboxing where he won a K1 tournament.
So, chins getting cracked come and go. While Reem may have tweeted a few things on defense, I assure you that CC did not. This is why we can't write off Hunt so quick. I know Hendo's jawline has shown fissures if not utter crevasses, but every fighter's physiology is different and anatomical structures aren't constructed uniformly. We and we have to take it on a fight my fight basis. Styles make fights and TBB is IMO is great matchup for Hunto to get back on track.
Let's remember that Hunt was blown off of his feet by middleweight Melvin Manhoef in DREAM in 2007 so it's not like he has been able to withstand inhuman blows to the head like a bunker buster proof safe house.
Other fighters known to have lost their stiff beard include Chuck Liddell who was TKOd three times in a row before engaging in a ferocious tete-a-tete with Wandy where he absorbed everything but a tire iron to the back of the skull.
Cesar Mutante is another. He was TKO'd in 3/4 successive appearances totaling a sparse 8:39 before getting back on track. Now, he was able to run off three straight.
yea it must be a genetical thing...Samoans take punishment better than Koreans or Japanese people.I'm not sure if I'm reading this right, but are you implying that chins can 'heal' back? There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of scientific consensus about the myth of the chin, so I doubt anyone in this thread can either deny or confirm that. When people generally talk about chins it's just a whole bunch of layman's inference.
What I can say is that every punch that lands is a different scenario. Different velocity/shape/angle/weight, did the fighter see it coming or not, genetics, perhaps things like weight-cutting, etc. Implying Crocop's chin somehow got better again because he started racking up wins after his UFC stint, is circumstantial evidence at best, and that's still kinda stretching it. Might simply be a case of the right punch not landing on him post-UFC.
I also think people tend to overrate the idea of having a 'good or bad' chin, imo it's much more a defensive issue, than a genetic one. Nobody is supposed to take trauma to their brains, anyone will eventually get hurt by a punch. Arlovski got put put out cold by Fedor because he took a calculated risk (which exploded in his face) by running face first into the overhand of a very explosive, very dangerous mofo. Against both Sergei and Rogers he backed up in a straight line with his back against the fence. Those are all much more examples of bad fight IQ, nobody should rely on the perceived strength of their chin against heavy hitters like that.
Same goes for fighters like Pat Barry, makes for super exciting fights though!
Extremely thick set people against smaller and thinner people, sure, not too hard to make a case for that.yea it must be a genetical thing...Samoans take punishment better than Koreans or Japanese people.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...he-fighters-chin-what-makes-a-fighter-durableI'm not sure if I'm reading this right, but are you implying that chins can 'heal' back? There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of scientific consensus about the myth of the chin, so I doubt anyone in this thread can either deny or confirm that. When people generally talk about chins it's just a whole bunch of layman's inference.
What I can say is that every punch that lands is a different scenario. Different velocity/shape/angle/weight, did the fighter see it coming or not, genetics, perhaps things like weight-cutting, etc. Implying Crocop's chin somehow got better again because he started racking up wins after his UFC stint, is circumstantial evidence at best, and that's still kinda stretching it. Might simply be a case of the right punch not landing on him post-UFC.
I also think people tend to overrate the idea of having a 'good or bad' chin, imo it's much more a defensive issue, than a genetic one. Nobody is supposed to take trauma to their brains, anyone will eventually get hurt by a punch. Arlovski got put put out cold by Fedor because he took a calculated risk (which exploded in his face) by running face first into the overhand of a very explosive, very dangerous mofo. Against both Sergei and Rogers he backed up in a straight line with his back against the fence. Those are all much more examples of bad fight IQ, nobody should rely on the perceived strength of their chin against heavy hitters like that.
Same goes for fighters like Pat Barry, makes for super exciting fights though!
My bad, I went really far down the rabbit hole or one just chins there. Let me crawl out of the weeds and get back on topic LOL
I'm not saying that Hunt is a lock here. He could get slep in the first 50 seconds. I just think it's a good stylist match up for him. It's gonna be a kickboxing match with MMA rules I suspect and if so that favors the kickboxer.
I also believe most of it is going to come down to leg and body kicks. Just look at how TBB reacted to one leg kicks from Roy Nelson and especially crushing round roundhouse kicks to the midsection from Travis Browne. In this fight with Travis Browne he nearly was folded up like a lawn-chair before Browne folded himself. Mentally.
Now go back and look at Hunt's fight against Reem and the thudding percussion from his whip fast roundhouse kicks to the body.
That is what I believe is going to put The Black Beast on the mat.
really really far down the rabbit hole or one chins. Let me get out of the weeds and back on topic LOL
a mix of the two...some fighting to get in, some fighting to stay in, etc etc. My main concern is are we gonna be able to bet on them.I know nothing of this show but do we know if it is guys on the current roster fighting, or is it guys fighting to get into the UFC? a mix of the 2 perhaps?
Steele is chinny and loses a lot of fights, Jumeau can punch, case closed.Can anyone make a good case for Jumeau
That's true, but you just mentioned two D-1 All-American wrestlers. Derrick Lewis is not that. The only thing that has an honorific in his name attaining the word "American" in it is regarding him being a former AAA truck driver.
Can anyone make a good case for Jumeau
Thoughts on Brunson/Kelly? Surely dad-bod can't do it again..? Paddy Power have got Brunson ITD @ near evens, can't decide whether to play that straight or put his ML in my RR.
Agreed. If I was confident in BB getting Hunt to the ground in this fight I'd definitely be playing him. I'm just not sure how he gets it there and I do believe that Hunt has the advantage on the feet. My point was that if BB does somehow manage to get top position Hunt is in a world of trouble.
As it is, I'm not confident in either guy and at this point I haven't bet the fight. I think this is a highly unpredictable spot and I can't see how anyone can be confident on either side. Going big on this fight is a mistake, regardless of the outcome IMO.