UFC Fight Night - Sandhagen vs Dillashaw- Offical discussion

[Jordan3399]

I would still take Paul’s take over guys like a Jordan, who is a known wannabe tout and fraud.

 

[Stat_Collector]

I think Cory steams Tj ,tj has ring rust and a short stature that makes it difficult to take Cory down. Cory bjj black belt will aid him from being subbed. Cory's previous exp in kick boxing makes him a more season combat vet. Hoping I'm right.

 

[Pappetta]

Since when is cory black belt? Yesterday?

 

[DogsAndKisses]

I don’t think you need a proven track record, that can easily be inaccurate, to be proof you know your shit.

Look at Sadistic, didn’t have a track record to my knowledge and I think we can agree he knew his shit. We got a lot of wannabes here, I would still take Paul’s take over guys like a Jordan, who is a known wannabe tout and fraud. If you don’t like his take then just ignore him like I am sure many do to you.




Sand is getting too much love now. Big fan of Sand, but at +170 TJ has value. And the fact that he can have success wrestling, in a small cage, and the fact that he mentions wrestling means I think he uses it and if so i think this is closer than odds suggest.

There is literally nothing inaccurate about third party tracking. Its very easy to tell who cheats it cause they are losers and whos legit. You can not tell how good someone is based off forum posts though.

 

[Boxing Expert 101]

I think Cory steams Tj ,tj has ring rust and a short stature that makes it difficult to take Cory down. Cory bjj black belt will aid him from being subbed. Cory's previous exp in kick boxing makes him a more season combat vet. Hoping I'm right.

I don’t think short stature should have anything to do with him having difficulty getting Sand down. If that’s the case then how did Assuncao who is shorter than T.J get Sand down 4 out of 6 times?

It’s not just getting the takedown and keeping Sand there, but mixing it up and having success with tds even if Sand can keep back up can make Sand hesitate a little at times standing. And it’s not like TJ is out matched standing, he can more than hold his own with Sand standing.

Now I know, lay off for TJ and some surgeries, off EPO and now 34 in a division where speed counts is normally a pass. But he doesn’t need speed to get tds and mix them in here and he is sitting at +170. Let me state I have Sand winning the fight most likely, but the odds have become off and from a value stand point there is value on TJ imo. I will be hoping TJ wins the first round or two so if I wanted or see TJ slowing I will be able to hedge Sand at close to evens or dog odds. Unless Sand clips him early then poof goes the bet.

 

[Boxing Expert 101]

There is literally nothing inaccurate about third party tracking. Its very easy to tell who cheats it cause they are losers and whos legit. You can not tell how good someone is based off forum posts though.

I know some that bet more than they show on their betting tips page, so I know first hand for sure ROI they show on that page is not a reflection of their real overall ROI.

Not saying that’s the case with you, but that is the case with others. Then you got some like Jordan that had their first betting page and ROI be so bad they have to create a new one and act like the first one never existed lol.

 

[Pappetta]

I don’t think short stature should have anything to do with him having difficulty getting Sand down. If that’s the case then how did Assuncao who is shorter than T.J get Sand down 4 out of 6 times?

It’s not just getting the takedown and keeping Sand there, but mixing it up and having success with tds even if Sand can keep back up can make Sand hesitate a little at times standing. And it’s not like TJ is out matched standing, he can more than hold his own with Sand standing.

Now I know, lay off for TJ and some surgeries, off EPO and now 34 in a division where speed counts is normally a pass. But he doesn’t need speed to get tds and mix them in here and he is sitting at +170. Let me state I have Sand winning the fight most likely, but the odds have become off and from a value stand point there is value on TJ imo. I will be hoping TJ wins the first round or two so if I wanted or see TJ slowing I will be able to hedge Sand at close to evens or dog odds. Unless Sand clips him early then poof goes the bet.

Not 34

 

[DogsAndKisses]

I know some that bet more than they show on their betting tips page, so I know first hand for sure ROI they show on that page is not a reflection of their real overall ROI.

Not saying that’s the case with you, but that is the case with others. Then you got some like Jordan that had their first betting page and ROI be so bad they have to create a new one and act like the first one never existed lol.

OK that just makes them weirdos but you still have third party tracked results and statistics that let you factually know if they're good or not and what level they're on.

 

[DogsAndKisses]

Heinish/Imavov o2.5 -225 great bet. Heinish doesn't get finished, no need to give that much consideration. So path to losing this bet is Heinish KO but Imavov is tough himself and I expect this to be a competitive fight, especially on the feet which I think is likely where most of it takes place. And hell, if it doesn't, that mean Heinish is clinching Imavov against the fence which is even better for this bet,

 

[Stat_Collector]

Since when is cory black belt? Yesterday?

brown* close

 

[Post 2 Decision]

My main thoughts for the card

-Not sure I want to bet on TJ off the EPO, 35 years old, 2 years off, finished by Cejudo....

-Is Soriano going to knock Allen out?

-Heinisch decision +140, too easy?

-Yuck WMMA

-Arce will get my weekly round 3 sprinkle over Ewell at +1600

 

[Kazda1]

Does anyone have a read on the Belbita/Goldy fight?

Goldy looks to be a muscular powerhouse, and I initially walked away thinking she'd just be able to out-physical Belbita, but I feel like I need a second look at Belbita for the fact that she's got 7" of reach on Goldy, and from what I recall, Belbita wasn't that bad of a striker - something that made me take a stab on her over Jojua last summer. I probably need to go back and look at this again.

 

[Thesnake101]

Does anyone have a read on the Belbita/Goldy fight?

Goldy looks to be a muscular powerhouse, and I initially walked away thinking she'd just be able to out-physical Belbita, but I feel like I need a second look at Belbita for the fact that she's got 7" of reach on Goldy, and from what I recall, Belbita wasn't that bad of a striker - something that made me take a stab on her over Jojua last summer. I probably need to go back and look at this again.

Worth noting that Belbita already lost to two fighters who were at similar length disadvantage already, and she's a huge can crusher. I'm thinking Goldy is competent enough to have her way with Diana tbh.

 

[ballsackarino]

Does anyone have a read on the Belbita/Goldy fight?

Goldy looks to be a muscular powerhouse, and I initially walked away thinking she'd just be able to out-physical Belbita, but I feel like I need a second look at Belbita for the fact that she's got 7" of reach on Goldy, and from what I recall, Belbita wasn't that bad of a striker - something that made me take a stab on her over Jojua last summer. I probably need to go back and look at this again.

Goldy is a low volume plodder with not much skills anywhere. She's just juiced to the gills. Her fight with granger was horrific. I would rarely ever trust that chick with my money even against another can like belbita.

 

[MidgardSerpent]

5dimes opened Eubanks sub @+1315 and Eubanks ko@ +899, I'm gonna guess that's a line error with her ITD line being like +170....


Edit : Okay, went to livechat with them they took the lines off.

 

[Ryan Kelly]

Heinish/Imavov o2.5 -225 great bet. Heinish doesn't get finished, no need to give that much consideration. So path to losing this bet is Heinish KO but Imavov is tough himself and I expect this to be a competitive fight, especially on the feet which I think is likely where most of it takes place. And hell, if it doesn't, that mean Heinish is clinching Imavov against the fence which is even better for this bet,

Someone tipped this to me so I taped it yesterday and I came away liking this and Ian. Also like Paiva/Phillips O2.5

 

[Kazda1]

Worth noting that Belbita already lost to two fighters who were at similar length disadvantage already, and she's a huge can crusher. I'm thinking Goldy is competent enough to have her way with Diana tbh.

Goldy is a low volume plodder with not much skills anywhere. She's just juiced to the gills. Her fight with granger was horrific. I would rarely ever trust that chick with my money even against another can like belbita.

Fair points on both sides. Asking for fantasy purposes. One of the things that sucks about MMA fantasy is avoiding a fight that you think goes to a decision or is 50/50 and that fight goes to a finish and you don't have that fighter in your lineup, automatically disqualifying you from first place on the first fight of the night lol. Even if it doesn't go to a decision and somehow one of these chick's lands 200+ plus strikes, you're done haha.

Both these chick's can be hit, and I felt Belbita was the worse of the two. Then again Goldy had those muscles for show, so who knows

 

[goldennirvana]

What do you all think?

 

[StewDogg11]

Fair points on both sides. Asking for fantasy purposes. One of the things that sucks about MMA fantasy is avoiding a fight that you think goes to a decision or is 50/50 and that fight goes to a finish and you don't have that fighter in your lineup, automatically disqualifying you from first place on the first fight of the night lol. Even if it doesn't go to a decision and somehow one of these chick's lands 200+ plus strikes, you're done haha.

Both these chick's can be hit, and I felt Belbita was the worse of the two. Then again Goldy had those muscles for show, so who knows

This makes no sense. I’ve seen multiple fighters who’ve won via decision be worth way more than fighters who’ve won via finish. Kennedy Nzechukwu for example in his last fight was only worth like 50 points even though he got a finish.

 

[Kamais_Ookin]

aspen ladd is aspen madd fight vs chiasson is cancelled, all those arguments in previous pages for nothing.