Law Opioid Billionaires Get SLAP ON THE WRIST For Murdering Hundreds Of Thousands

[Jesus X]

the sackler luxury wing of that courthouse being built is kind of suspicious.

 

[fedoriswar37]

Man I know so many more people who have Od'd then died of covid the last 2 years. My wife works front line this crisis is just continuing to spiral out of control with no end in site. The other day there was 10 overdoses alone in 1 afternoon. You wanna talk about overloading the Healthcare system, that's emergency responders showing up every single time . Ambulances and first responders that could be used elsewhere.

 

[kahiljabroni]

If only doctors didn't prescribe opioids like candy for anyone complaining of a bad back.

Exactly....blame the fda and the drs

 

[fedoriswar37]

Exact same thing happened to me with my highschool sports injuries. I got full bottles of 20 or 30 pills after each ER visit or surgery, each time I needed maybe 2 or 4 pills, and by day 3 the max dose of ibuprofen could handle the pain.

Thankfully I had the adolescent attitude of “I want to be tough and not need painkillers”. If I’d taken say the full 20 pill prescription at 17 years old, I could have easily ended up asking around to my more unsavory friends where to get more or something similar once they ran out

I was in the hospital for an overdose that resulted in 2 broken shoulders. No word of a lie They offered me percocets to take home for the pain. I remember asking them are you kidding me .

 

[Jesus X]

This is where it gets sketchy. They marketed and pretended that their opioids were magically not addictive and had the medical industry back them. It was pretty egregious
I’m amazed at what they handed out. I had my wisdom teeth taken out and remember being prescribed like 20 Tylenol with codine. No one needs that for teeth being pulled. If I had taken them I probably would have gotten addicted

also people who can’t get anymore oxy turn to meth and heroine. All these ODs are a result of all this

I had a case of some swelling in my wrist area some sort of tendonitis back in the pill mill days in CA they gave a pog sized container of opiates and I could re fill it too this was also not even the correct drug because I was supposed to be on anti inflammatory pills that had no narcotic. I got prescribed basically what is called "lean" for a mild case of pneumonia. I could probably get xanax and adderall very easily right now legally.

 

[terrapin]

You should review the court documents. The company sent sales reps with medical studies that claimed the pills these people were pushing were not habit forming and doctors believed them due to the medical research the company had paid to have published. Then people typically blue collar working class people who had no reason to not trust their doctor believed their doctor when told there was no drawback to taking these pills doe their bad back. Many of those people are now dead.

i would be ok with long term prison sentences and all the money given to the victims of this insane psychopathic business model.

its the least we could do i think.

 

[Lord Coke]

What exactly did they do wrong? All opioids they sold were prescribed by a medical provider, no? It's also misleading to link the total number of opioid overdoses with prescribed pharmaceuticals. Though many opioid death are from prescription meds many others involve street drugs where there is no prescription history.

The whole US system was/is fucked up so it doesn't seem fair to all of the sudden hold these clowns responsible.

The problem is these guys were knowingly and deceptively misrepresenting to the doctors that the pills at issue were nonaddictive. Relying on the Sacklers misrepresentations and medical studies the doctors prescribed the pills as if they were nonaddictive.

 

[Jesus X]

The American dream is there, for those who obey the law and work hard.
That’s how the Fertitta family came to be worth billions. They certainly never did anything as heinous as possessing a joint.

lol at thinking an italian gaming family in NV never having any shady illegal shennanigans in their past.

 

[ElKarlo]

I had a case of some swelling in my wrist area some sort of tendonitis back in the pill mill days in CA they gave a pog sized container of opiates and I could re fill it too this was also not even the correct drug because I was supposed to be on anti inflammatory pills that had no narcotic. I got prescribed basically what is called "lean" for a mild case of pneumonia. I could probably get xanax and adderall very easily right now legally.

Yeah and forgot if I was entitled to refills. Man that was crazy. Oprah addiction for you and you and you. Addiction for everyone
Btw been in Japan for years. Wrecked my shoulder a decade ago. Did some PT and stuff was never even prescribed pain killers. Most I ever got was 200mg ibuprofen pills. Think like 1000mg total. Outside of severe accidents and injuries no one needs that stuff. This was big pharma milking the system. And that milk was people’s blood

 

[terrapin]

What exactly did they do wrong? All opioids they sold were prescribed by a medical provider, no? It's also misleading to link the total number of opioid overdoses with prescribed pharmaceuticals. Though many opioid death are from prescription meds many others involve street drugs where there is no prescription history.

The whole US system was/is fucked up so it doesn't seem fair to all of the sudden hold these clowns responsible.

you could read the article before asking questions.

 

[ineverpost]

Good thing most opioid victims aren’t a preferred pigment in this day and age…

Had opioids hit the urban, inner cities they whole family would get capital punishment

that's because they have community that bands together to pressure politicians unlike the "other" people, who are usually in charge of these corporations and consider anyone outside their own household to be an alien.

 

[HockeyBjj]

I was in the hospital for an overdose that resulted in 2 broken shoulders. No word of a lie They offered me percocets to take home for the pain. I remember asking them are you kidding me .

Yep. I had percents once after a shoulder surgery. They gave me a full bottle. Like a months worth. I definitely needed them the next morning, no amount of ibuprofen or Tylenol would have made that bearable (I didn’t wake up at night to take some pain killers, so woke up 6am with no drugs in system and holy shit was that painful until 6:30 while I waited for the Percocet to kick in). But then next day I was and to just be uncomfortable with off the shelf pain killers.


They’re smarter now. Friend broke his leg, had a couple screws in surgery. They gave him a prescription for 3 days worth is all, and then a prescription for prescription strength Tylenol after that and even encouraged him to not take all of the opiates if he didn’t truly need it the second or 3rd day.


Edit: holy shit. I didn’t even read that you were injured while overdosing on drugs. And they gave an apparent addict Percocet? Wtf.

hope you’re better now bud. Addiction is nasty.

 

[Bald1]

The problem is these guys were knowingly and deceptively misrepresenting to the doctors that the pills at issue were nonaddictive. Relying on the Sacklers misrepresentations and medical studies the doctors prescribed the pills as if they were nonaddictive.

Agreed, yet at some point you realize one if your tools is defective and at that point you have to stop using it. There's lots of available, approved garbage products I refuse to install or provide my customers. Different industry but the principal is the same.

 

[Lord Coke]

Agreed, yet at some point you realize one if your tools is defective and at that point you have to stop using it. There's lots of available, approved garbage products I refuse to install or provide my customers. Different industry but the principal is the same.

Yes but let's say you didn't that would not alleviate the tool manufacturer from liability. It would just mean that both you and the manufacturer are liable.

 

[kenetics]

Good thing most opioid victims aren’t a preferred pigment in this day and age…

Had opioids hit the urban, inner cities they whole family would get capital punishment

Na. They introduced crack in black and poor neighborhoods too and no one cared either.

 

[Bald1]

Yes but let's say you didn't that would not alleviate the tool manufacturer from liability. It would just mean that both you and the manufacturer are liable.

Sure, but I tell my customers my recommendations and refuse to install garbage. No, plumbing mishaps don't carry the same weighty repressions as a doctor fucking up, yet we can't ignore that professionals solving problems shouldn't knowingly use something that'll cause other problems.

As you said, once it was clear they were doing harm with their prescriptions they shared part of the liability in my mind.

 

[Lord Coke]

Sure, but I tell my customers my recommendations and refuse to install garbage. No, plumbing mishaps don't carry the same weighty repressions as a doctor fucking up, yet we can't ignore that professionals solving problems shouldn't knowingly use something that'll cause other problems.

As you said, once it was clear they were doing harm with their prescriptions they shared part of the liability in my mind.

I don't disagree with you but as a practical matter.
The individual doctors don't really have deep enough pockets to be worth going in the manner these suit were brought and there are a lot of other issues with going after them. These are class actions and the class is way bigger if you go after the distributor vs a doctor or even a hospital or other provider.

 

[Broken arrow]

Well the pendulum has now swung the other way. I recently destroyed my knee doing Buhurt (extreme larping). It was bent sideways at about a 70 degree angle. Swelled up to the size of a cantaloupe with a torn ACL and MCL. The fuckin doctor at the urgent care gave me 500mg acetaminophen

 

[Bald1]

I don't disagree with you but as a practical matter.
The individual doctors don't really have deep enough pockets to be worth going in the manner these suit were brought and there are a lot of other issues with going after them. These are class actions and the class is way bigger if you go after the distributor vs a doctor or even a hospital or other provider.

Oh, I agree with you and see your point.

They went to great lengths to misrepresent their product and see it widely distributed. Once something is approved for the markets it gains a level trust that's hard to reel back. They intentionally caused harm to society due to greed. It's somewhat analogous to the current state of the media. It puts some BS out, the public accepts it, then print a retraction once the harm is done and the uninitiated doesn't know they were fed a lie. Same process of willing to deal with the blowback as it still leaves the dishonesty a profitable venture. Housing bubble anyone? Those who started the ball rolling should shoulder the brunt of the responsibility undoubtedly.

All I'm saying is the doctors who knowingly prescribed a harmful product are shit human beings and shouldn't get a pass.

 

[ICHEERTHEBULL]

lol at thinking an italian gaming family in NV never having any shady illegal shennanigans in their past.

I believe he was being sarcastic