International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V8

[Rod1]

You are clearly more knowledgeable than me on these matters, but perhaps we agree that an overt humiliation of Russia is in nobody’s best interests.

No, but its not in anybody's interests to reward a nation that decided to wage war on another nation.

 

[Anewt]

You're free to say whatever you want in the west, why don't you try that in Russia?

We're also free to think you're a fuckwit based off what you say. That doesn't mean you don't have freedom of speech.

This is real freedom.

<Lmaoo>

Yeah.. conscription.. no political opposition. No workers rights. No freedom of press. No freedom of speech.

Damn right !!!! Ukraine is the definition of Freeeeddooommm!!!!

<Lmaoo> you aren't rational at all. Change ya name

 

[Boxiana]

No, but its not in anybody's interests to reward a nation that decided to wage war on another nation.

Of course not. I don’t believe I ever suggested that, though Sandis may disagree.

 

[Rational Poster]

<Lmaoo>

Yeah.. conscription.. no political opposition. No workers rights. No freedom of press. No freedom of speech.

Damn right !!!! Ukraine is the definition of Freeeeddooommm!!!!

<Lmaoo> you aren't rational at all. Change ya name

Is this a fan fiction you've been working on?

 

[Anewt]

Ukraine is just fodder? they are literally doing the fighting, the US isn't fighting this war buddy, just like the US couldn't force the Afghan army to defend their country from the Taliban.

Ukraine can surrender tomorrow if its in their best interests and Russia can also withdraw tomorrow if they so wanted.

Was completely in reference to the " we " comments. No shit it's all Ukraine shedding their blood. It's why people are cheering conscription. Because it's not them.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

You are clearly more knowledgeable than me on these matters, but perhaps we agree that an overt humiliation of Russia is in nobody’s best interests.

I think you are reading in too much about WW1 Germany...which should have been punished but maybe punishments went too far, however hat doesnt excuse Adolf for all his transgressions . Russia def needs a big deterrent to not ever do anything like this ever again...and not just a few "santions"

 

[Anewt]

Is this a fan fiction you've been working on?

It's the reality of being Ukrainian at the moment. That's the " real freedoms " they have.

 

[Rational Poster]

It's the reality of being Ukrainian at the moment. That's the " real freedoms " they have.

They are being invaded.

 

[Boxiana]

however hat doesnt excuse Adolf for all his transgressions

This we can agree on, though ‘transgressions’ seems unnecessarily lenient.

Let’s leave it there. Feels like we’ve made our points and are just going round in circles now.

 

[Yehudim]

Peaceniks need to be sent to camps

 

[Rod1]

Was completely in reference to the " we " comments. No shit it's all Ukraine shedding their blood. It's why people are cheering conscription. Because it's not them.

Ukraine isn't in need of unmotivated conscripts, its not Russia.

 

[Anewt]

They are being invaded you fuckwit.

No shit Sherlock. And every month of the invasion they lose more freedoms.

 

[Anewt]

Ukraine isn't in need of unmotivated conscripts, its not Russia.

If that was the case they wouldn't have required conscription nor prevented them from leaving Ukraine.

There's literally no information available on casualties. Morale etc . I think you're all going to be shocked when the reality of this all comes out. Eventually

 

[Anewt]

Jesus christ you're retarded.

All you have is poor insults. You're very dull. I see how you got to that post number . Move on.

 

[Rational Poster]

All you have a poor insults. You're very dull. I see how you got to that post number . Move on.

Very accurate insult.

 

[Rational Poster]

Peaceniks need to be sent to camps

No no we need to just give Putin everything he wants despite everything that has transpired. It doesn't matter that his drunken horde of losers just looted, raped, and murdered their way across Ukraine for the past year.

We can even go further and give him everything to Odessa just to make sure he's happy with the deal.

 

[Queen B]

Russian Media using Elon Musk's tweets as talking points

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Russian Media using Elon Musk's tweets as talking points

 

[SandisLL]

Well, looks that politicians in west europe does knows what will happen if Ukr will get 404 or submitted.

Dreamers dream: ukr refugees will rush to relocate back to Ukr.
Russia will sell commoditities maybe even with huge discounts....

Realists perspective: number of refugees from Ukr in the same Poland and Germany, Slovakia, Chech Republic etc.....will peak up and then ....current refugees number will look like small piece of cake.
+ instead of current trend mainly kids and females .....
will get a lot of males....in even higher number......

Damn....
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Dreamers dream: Russia will stop with Ukr.

Realists opinion: we will see hell with Moldova, Russia with border vs Hungary and Slovakia, more borderline with Poland and there.......

First step in empire game will start.
And " Empire that should be " is core of russian world ideology.
Red from Portugal and U.K and Greenland till Vladivostok.

Dugin's ideas are " Russian World " core....
While now he is old, rich and very boring guy repeatedly talking the same stuff.

All most impactful stuff he had told and written before 2008 th.
So no reason for someone to deal with him...
Nothing new he will tell and is boring.
His daughter: it is like Solovjov or Kiselev...easily repleacable ( propagandists are really well paid ) unit ....
There too no reason to deal with such parrot.
Kremlin each day might find next one....

 

[Siver!]

Russian Media using Elon Musk's tweets as talking points

"But I want to be able to sell products to Russia when they've lost" u-turn from the world's least favourite cosmonaut wannabe.