Francis Ngannou expects to fight Renan Ferreira-Ryan Bader winner in #MMA return #PFLvsBellator

[The XL]

Bader was absolutely terrified of Rumble Johnson so I don't anticipate him doing well again Francis

 

[RonDante]

BS.

When Ngannou took the title, Jones was not injured, he was offered the fight and declined because "8-10millions was way too low". It is on record.

Ngannou planned at least 3 years ahead to complete his contract and explore his options, including his dream of boxing. And as soon as his contract ended and negotiations to renew failed, Jones magically appeared out of a 3 years layoff.

But yeah, you know, he went to box Tyson Fury because he wanted no risk and easy fights. Makes sense, right?

Jones and the ufc couldn’t agree on a fee, so the Interim fight between gane and Lewis got made, so obviously jones can’t step in and fight ngannou then. Then ngannou nurses a knee injury, then he’s recovered, jones is ready to go and ngannou isn’t

 

[markg171]

He had to leave the US to renew his visa, nothing he could have done anything. They made an interim after 5 months, when he said he would be ready a month later, the most unwarranted interim fight in combat sport history.

Well did he defend a month later or did it take another 6 months before he finally did?

Fact is Ngannou did sit out for a year after winning the belt. Then sat out for another year after that too from injury.

Your dumb talking point about Jon avoiding him for years is just dumb when Ngannou wasn't fighting either. And still isn't in MMA either. Wait a couple more years before trying your revisionist history.

March 2023 was the right time they could've fought. Jon showed up that night, Ngannou didn't.

If you believe he was ducking Lewis, to then defend against Gane despite a massive injury, I have a couple of bridges to sell you.

He'd already lost to Lewis, meanwhile he used to train with Gane where he KO'd him standing in sparring and knew his grappling sucked.

Shocking I know that he was fine with fighting the guy he knew multiple ways he could still win vs the guy he'd lost to. And over Jon who was obviously the hardest challenge of all 3. On the last fight of his contract which he needed to win to have any leverage.

You're the one who needs a bridge sold too if you think Ngannou wasn't being calculated with his decisions. His team openly said they didn't take the Jones fight because if they lost, which in their own words was a great possibility, the pay went down and they wouldn't risk that.

 

[spinup]

Well did he defend a month later or did it take another 6 months before he finally did?

Duh... he defended when the UFC offered it, moron. Because it had to be Gane and Gane wanted some vacations with his very legit belt.

Jones and the ufc couldn’t agree on a fee, so the Interim fight between gane and Lewis got made, so obviously jones can’t step in and fight ngannou then. Then ngannou nurses a knee injury, then he’s recovered, jones is ready to go and ngannou isn’t

So when Jones under contract ask for much more than 10 millions (alledgedly 30millions, lol) guaranteed to fight Ngannou, it's just him negociating.

But when Ngannou completes his contract, and they can't agree on terms for a new contract (not for a specific fight) it's him not wanting to fight.

You guys are full of shit, for real.

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

I wasn’t aware that bader was even still fighting I thought he retired years ago. Never heard of the other guy. But I guess that’s what happens when you decide to move down to the minor leagues instead of fighting in the ufc

Francis via omoplata or flying arm bar...

Imagine he beats AJ, arguably beats Fury, then returns to MMA and loses to fucking Renan Ferreira...

I honestly believe him.





I dont.

Francis ducking Jon Africa confirmed.

He also put Fedor to sleep in 10 seconds with a jab

Bader is as good as finished in this fight, I see Francis ending it inside a few minuets.

Ferreira stand a chance here??

Bader was absolutely terrified of Rumble Johnson so I don't anticipate him doing well again Francis

 

[RonDante]

Duh... he defended when the UFC offered it, moron. Because it had to be Gane and Gane wanted some vacations with his very legit belt.


So when Jones under contract ask for much more than 10 millions (alledgedly 30millions, lol) guaranteed to fight Ngannou, it's just him negociating.

But when Ngannou completes his contract, and they can't agree on terms for a new contract (not for a specific fight) it's him not wanting to fight.

You guys are full of shit, for real.

Yes, it is him not wanting to fight. The first fight of his new contract would have been jones, and if he lost he takes a pay cut. He wasn’t confident he could beat jones so he ran off to boxing and started calling for a crossover fight that everyone knows will never happen to save face

 

[Bojka]

People are going to buy a PPV with Ngannou headlining against a blown up middle aged LHW who couldn't even be a contender in the UFC?

This is honestly pathetic if this is the best PFL can do. Ngannou will be a -2000 favourite.

edit: I don't know anything about Ferreira but if he's 6'8" 261 I suppose he will probably win.

 

[Chaotic Progressor]

Ngannou fkn bossed Dana & Co.

One of the most unexpected turnarounds. Dana n 'em should be concerned, because he's shown other champs or stars of UFC a way to not be beholden to them. Yeah McGregor did first but it seemed bound to McGregor's once in a lifetime character / charisma of that era. Ngannou does have charisma and is a great guy but he wasn't a global superstar. Even still most people wouldn't have heard of him, as in even casual boxing fans, and definitely not the average person who doesn't follow any of it.

It looked like Ngannou fumbled the bag.
Then he went out n got like, what, $30 mil? from the Fury and Joshua fights. Over 3 x what UFC was offering to tie him in... he's got that from 2 boxing fights, PLUS another $23 million. And now he's name and stock is WAY higher, he's shaken up boxing, and can now go back to PFL and make more bank.

Fkn bossed 'em.

 

[markg171]

Ngannou fkn bossed Dana & Co.

One of the most unexpected turnarounds. Dana n 'em should be concerned, because he's shown other champs or stars of UFC a way to not be beholden to them. Yeah McGregor did first but it seemed bound to McGregor's once in a lifetime character / charisma of that era. Ngannou does have charisma and is a great guy but he wasn't a global superstar. Even still most people wouldn't have heard of him, as in even casual boxing fans, and definitely not the average person who doesn't follow any of it.

It looked like Ngannou fumbled the bag.
Then he went out n got like, what, $30 mil? from the Fury and Joshua fights. Over 3 x what UFC was offering to tie him in... he's got that from 2 boxing fights, PLUS another $23 million. And now he's name and stock is WAY higher, he's shaken up boxing, and can now go back to PFL and make more bank.

Fkn bossed 'em.

Yeah he really bossed them by getting paid eormous sums of money for fights nobody watched and they wouldn't have made money on, to turn around and fight Bader, who lost to Jones 13 years ago, 2 years later after stiffing PFL for a year instead of fighting for them like he'd agreed to.

Like Jesus fuck. Ngannou proved the UFC entirely correct not to re-sign him.

 

[nonoob]

First time Jones ever faced off with ANY Heavyweight.
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jones was willing to fight, ngannou wasn’t, and then ngannou started throwing stones from across the pond

Pulsing Pico knew his place, still hiding while protected at Lightweight.
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How hilarious to go from fighting Jones to fighting the guy he obliterated 13 years ago. More so if Bader wrestlefucks him.

Big difference, Bader wasn't a coward. Darth stepped up to HW in 2018.

Your dumb talking point about Jon avoiding him for years is just dumb when Ngannou wasn't fighting either. And still isn't in MMA either. Wait a couple more years before trying your revisionist history.

Pulsing Pico Ducked Every Single UFC Heavyweight For Years.​

So when Jones under contract ask for much more than 10 millions (alledgedly 30millions, lol) guaranteed to fight Ngannou, it's just him negociating.

Pico STILL Avoided fighting Every Other HW, his "Legacy" since 2013.​

 

[markg171]

Duh... he defended when the UFC offered it, moron. Because it had to be Gane and Gane wanted some vacations with his very legit belt.


So when Jones under contract ask for much more than 10 millions (alledgedly 30millions, lol) guaranteed to fight Ngannou, it's just him negociating.

But when Ngannou completes his contract, and they can't agree on terms for a new contract (not for a specific fight) it's him not wanting to fight.

You guys are full of shit, for real.

The UFC was offering $8M per fight SO LONG AS HE KEPT WINNING. AKA remained champion.

Ngannou was asking for $8M PER FIGHT, even if he lost to Jones and was no longer champion. Which his own team explicitly said was the sticking point in that losing to Jones was an enormous possibility and they didn't want to drop out of that champion pay.

No shit the UFC said fuck no as Ngannou was obviously being absurd. He's not some McGregor where it makes sense to pay him that much without a belt. Ngannou was simply throwing shit out there as he had no intention than to do anything other than go to boxing.

 

[PaddyO'malley]

Mans should just crash the fight have both them boiz snorin' in 1 hit save us the time

 

[Chaotic Progressor]

Yeah he really bossed them by getting paid eormous sums of money for fights nobody watched and they wouldn't have made money on, to turn around and fight Bader, who lost to Jones 13 years ago, 2 years later after stiffing PFL for a year instead of fighting for them like he'd agreed to.

Like Jesus fuck. Ngannou proved the UFC entirely correct not to re-sign him.

Who gives af he's richer than shit. He was a legit champ in UFC, defended, created a new path and is now going to be like 5 x richer than he would have been. Not saying it's all about money, but we're not talking an already-billionaire here or something, if you asked me 'hey want 7 mil? or 30?', those are amounts which still matter. So yeah, he bossed em, business wise for himself.

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

@helax @StonedLemur @Neck&Neck @Kryptt @Poirierfan

 

[Poirierfan]

@helax @StonedLemur @Neck&Neck @Kryptt @Poirierfan

I love me some Francis, I truly don't understand how he has haters.

 

[Neck&Neck]

He should fight both at the same time Renan and Bader
That would be a BANGER

 

[markg171]

Who gives af he's richer than shit. He was a legit champ in UFC, defended, created a new path and is now going to be like 5 x richer than he would have been. Not saying it's all about money, but we're not talking an already-billionaire here or something, if you asked me 'hey want 7 mil? or 30?', those are amounts which still matter. So yeah, he bossed em, business wise for himself.

It's not very hard to understand how the UFC was also right.

- They're not going to pay millions of dollars for events that don't return millions of dollars like the Saudis are
- They're not going to let someone leave them and possibly never return like PFL did

Ngannou did great for himself and the UFC was absolutely right not to re-sign him given the above.

Both sides can be right and have done what was best for them.

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

I love me some Francis, I truly don't understand how he has haters.

If he beats Joshua ... I hope he goes Full RJJ
@helax @MMALOPEZ

 

[nonoob]

Having established now that Ngannou was tied up for 2021 dealing with an interim champion, is there anything at all you can think of that occurred in 2022 that kept him from fighting Jones then?

Yes, the fact Pulsing Pico STILL stayed at LW, cowardly refusing to fight DC, Stipe, Blades, Lewis, Francis, and Every Other UFC Heavyweight that was on the roster.

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

dont remember how good Bader take downs were lol but if you knew the guy you were fighting has been training basically boxing for 2yrs wouldnt you just wrestle fk him shrugs... would be funny 0-2 in boxing.. then losing in PFL whew to wrestling

Shoot.

Ngannou > D1