Elections Larry Elder vs Gavin Newsom

[Noodles03]

What is the source of your information?

I just have to look outside

 

[chardog]

It's only that simple to people that aren't serious.
Elder was in the lead. I'm not going to get rid of one bad choice for a worse one. Holding Newsom accountable is not worth the dick in my ass that an Elder or lesser candidate would be.

California's recall system makes no sense, and I"m not chancing some random that I don't know anything about taking the reins.
The time for accountability will be at the next election

he's bad because he's done what?

there was a jillion democrats on the ballot. Having absolutely nothing happen for the next two years might be better than screwsom

 

[Noodles03]

Here’s a pic that I just took.

 

[GeneTunney7]

This is unfortunately the case. The integrity of America's elections have been fairly consistently and bipartisan-ly called into question for at least 2 decades, yet many on the American Left have been convinced that it's all "derp, Q-anon Republicans!!!" Just like when the accusations come from the other side, the Right calls them crazy.

The American people no longer seem suited to, nor even particularly interested in democracy (obviously a broad stroke, but not an inaccurate one).

The election fraud issue was actually very much a left leaning issue in 2015/2016 and prior, championed by Greg Palast, Richard Charnin, Lee Camp, Debbie Lusignan, Jimmy Dore and other progressives. Remember #ExitPollGate, where the exit polls were off by 33% in Arizona, 12% in NYC, double digits in numerous other states and so the main stream media stopped showing the exit polls so people would not know Hillary was rigging it? For example, any elections sanctioned by the UN are reconducted if the exit poll discrepancies are off by more than 2.5%, but in America they are allowed to be off by 50% and anyone that notices this is called a 'Russian conspiracy theorist' (or other bad name)

Even Stanford University, a shining beacon of liberalism, did study proving the fraud and showing that in places where there were paper trails Bernie Sanders did much better, and without paper trails Hillary magically did much better.

I'm not saying January 6th was an engineered event by intelligence agencies and COINTELPRO, but WOW did it benefit the neocons, neolibs, MSM, "deep state" and intelligence agencies in their ability to make questions about election integrity look illegitimate; and, it also simultaneously prevented the Progressive Left from joining ('horse shoeing') with the Trump right. A divided people are easy to control, and a united people not caring about the two party system, focusing on fairness and issues, is the ''powers that be'' worst nightmare. January 6th essentially did for election rigging what 911 did for the war on terror, and as Glenn Greenwald has been pointing out recently: they do not care about Afghanistan anymore because that 'war on terror' is now coming home and going to be aimed at United States citizens and dissidents that refuse to accept the state sponsored narrative.

 

[Diogenes of Sinope]

I live in California and crime rates have increase due to criminals who are illegal immigrants. The media here is so bias that they will hardly report these type of news because it doesn’t fit their narrative.

Jack V Savage doesnt care about your actual experiences. Only leftwing biased "data"

 

[GeneTunney7]

The fuck is that chart? That's not our intel agencies and the numbers...what are they supposed to add up to?

That chart is the political affiliation breakdown of the heads of our intelligence agencies.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

he's bad because he's done what?

there was a jillion democrats on the ballot. Having absolutely nothing happen for the next two years might be better than screwsom

Larry Elder is diametrically opposed to just about everything I believe in. If you are on the left in California, no matter what you think of Newsom, Larry Elder is not a better choice.
Most of California is still liberal, and Elder is not. So how would getting rid of Newsom and replacing him with a conservative be better for liberals?

 

[RogerB08]

Dear Conservatives,

SUCK IT!!!

Love California

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

No way man. These shit head politicians need to know they can lose their gig. Hell wasting money is the number 1 reason he deserved to be up for it. This state is so mismanaged financially its hard to even comprehend.

The recall is just a way for these conservatives who don’t have a chance of winning to use their PACs as slush funds. There is a ton of money in this grift and you’ll be seeing it more and more in the future.


Elder had no chance of winning at all. None. It was a waste of money for the state but good for elders pocket. You’ve been bamboozled once again

 

[Noodles03]

With Newsom, I won’t be surprised if he orders another lockdown.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I just have to look outside

How can you possibly think you can tell anything meaningful about changes in crime rates in a state of 40 million people by looking outside?

 

[GeneTunney7]

I've no issue with conversations on voting integrity, but bringing up the conversation in an election like this only serves to rile people up for nothing, which is why Elder did it.

It is very possible Elder has no idea what he is talking about and just made the claim to throw some red meat to his base. The reality is just about every election has flaws and irregularities, but the question i if they were enough to turn the entire elections and how much was intentional vs error. With Bernie, it was something like 96% of the anomalies benefitted Hillary, from the Hillary and Buttiplug miracle coin flips in Iowa to the Bernie voting districts shutting down with no notice.




Many people associated Trump, like Sidney Powell and Mike Lindell, did not know anything about the finer talking points of election integrity, probably watched a few youtube videos or talked to some people that did, and then went off half cocked making wild statements that they simply could not prove. The republican talking points previous to Trump in regards to election integrity was one of being obsessed with 'voter fraud', people voting multiple times and illegals voting, which can exist but is a drop in the bucket compared to 'fraction magic'. With 'fraction magic', you can decide the outcome of the election before hand, so it does not matter how many times a person votes, and the only way to rectify this issue is simply switching to pencil and paper with manual counts, but we wont see that and so this shit show will continue.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Jack V Savage doesnt care about your actual experiences. Only leftwing biased "data"

Only real data. What about that bet?

 

[GeneTunney7]

Lol, people like you crying about rigged elections would never stop regardless of how they were done. Where did this picture even come from? It'd sure be nice to see a link. And if you can't see the difference between the litigation that occurred after the Gore v Bush election and this last one you're an idiot.

If you have been following what I have written, I have told you what the fix is. There is no such thing as a fraud free election, but the safest elections are the lowest tech elections. I agree w/ Lulu Friesdat of SMART Elections, Bev Harris of Black Box Voting, and virtually every other elections integrity expert in that we must switch to pencil and paper ballots with hand count and non partisan over sight. This is what they have in the UK and virtually every other first work country, so why shouldn't we have it too?

Tulsi gabbard tried to pass the Securing America’s Elections Act (HR5147), which would be a start, but naturally it failed to pass. So using occam's razor, what does that tell you?! Many of the people in power are reliant upon this fraudulent system to retain power. It is not rocket science.

I could give a bollox about Larry Elder, the republicans, the democrats, or this fraudulent two party divisive system we have right now. Maybe Elder received a totally safe and clean election, or maybe he was even rigging himself, but the reality remains the system as it stands now can be rigged, and as such, why wouldn't the parties in power that have the keys to the kingdom rig it for themselves? Do you actually believe these blood sucking, war criminal, vampiric, sociopathic, corporate puppets and rogue intelligence agencies are just going to conduct fair elections because it is the right thing to do? Of course not! As long as election CAN be rigged, they WILL be rigged.

 

[Joe]

I live in California and crime rates have increase due to criminals who are illegal immigrants. The media here is so bias that they will hardly report these type of news because it doesn’t fit their narrative.

Lol the right has been saying this for decades. Even more dumb since the crime rates have been falling since the early 90s.

 

[Bob Gray]

He actually did say that if Black people get reparations then slave owners are also owed reparations. It is asinine to equate slaves and slave owners.

Which is very different than a position that slave owners should have been compensated. Since he doesn't think reparations are a good idea, he's demonstrating by comparing it to what he thinks is an comparably bad idea.

“When people talk about reparations, do they really want to have that conversation? Like it or not, slavery was legal,” Elder said as a guest on conservative commentator Candace Owens’ radio show in July. “Their legal property was taken away from them after the Civil War, so you could make an argument that the people that are owed reparations are not only just Black people but also the people whose ‘property’ was taken away after the end of the Civil War.”

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politic...the-Trumpist-that-may-save-Gavin-16450323.php

When someone says "you can make an argument" or "it can be argued", the preface is to demonstrate you dont actually agree with what you're about to say. Only that an argument can be made.

Again, very different than saying "Elder believes slave owners should get reparations". A statement like that is either dishonest or ignorant. Take your pick.

 

[blaseblah]

If you have been following what I have written, I have told you what the fix is. There is no such thing as a fraud free election, but the safest elections are the lowest tech elections.

The 2000 election says otherwise.

 

[Bob Gray]

It's only that simple to people that aren't serious.
Elder was in the lead. I'm not going to get rid of one bad choice for a worse one. Holding Newsom accountable is not worth the dick in my ass that an Elder or lesser candidate would be.

California's recall system makes no sense, and I"m not chancing some random that I don't know anything about taking the reins.
The time for accountability will be at the next election

What were Elders policy ideas that would put a dick in your ass?

What I mean is, I'm not interested in criticizing his campaign ideas based on an opinion he talked about on his radio show. A lot of my friends don't like him because hes pro life. Personally I find that to be pretty unimportant because it's not like he's gonna make abortion illegal in california or something.

So, just based on the policy decisions he was campaigning on, how would a dick be put in your ass?

 

[SmilinDesperado]

It is very possible Elder has no idea what he is talking about and just made the claim to throw some red meat to his base. The reality is just about every election has flaws and irregularities, but the question i if they were enough to turn the entire elections and how much was intentional vs error. With Bernie, it was something like 96% of the anomalies benefitted Hillary, from the Hillary and Buttiplug miracle coin flips in Iowa to the Bernie voting districts shutting down with no notice.




Many people associated Trump, like Sidney Powell and Mike Lindell, did not know anything about the finer talking points of election integrity, probably watched a few youtube videos or talked to some people that did, and then went off half cocked making wild statements that they simply could not prove. The republican talking points previous to Trump in regards to election integrity was one of being obsessed with 'voter fraud', people voting multiple times and illegals voting, which can exist but is a drop in the bucket compared to 'fraction magic'. With 'fraction magic', you can decide the outcome of the election before hand, so it does not matter how many times a person votes, and the only way to rectify this issue is simply switching to pencil and paper with manual counts, but we wont see that and so this shit show will continue.

Ha. I totally forgot about that bogus coin toss.
I've never heard of this 'fraction magic', but curious to look into it.
But yeah, when you get people like Trump, Powell and Lindell to carelessly and inarticulately scream fake! and fraud!, it's going to be that much harder to get people to pay attention to, or take any of these claims seriously.

 

[andnowweknow]

I just have to look outside

It fits how you feel about illegal immigrants so you made something up.